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Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 13:59 EDT (US)         
Does anybody know the best way to get map information from a faction. The Senate gave me a mission to get map information from Germania and I already have before they asked me to. I tried to offer an alliance,trade rights, and offered them huge sums of money.

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Chalupa Batman
Centurion
(id: ccsantos)
posted 17 July 2006 14:28 EDT (US)     1 / 19       
what version you running. i've played 1.0 - 1.5...I might be able to tell you what you need to do.

As-Salaam-Alaikum
Rubber Soul 65
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 14:49 EDT (US)     2 / 19       
I give them "trade rights" and "map information" for map info. I have the unpatched Gold Edition. works every time.

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jump_offa_house
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 15:01 EDT (US)     3 / 19       
On 1.5 I tend to offer map information for map information and it works a treat everytime!

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Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 15:05 EDT (US)     4 / 19       
i gave them my map info as a gift, then refused to give me theirs. And I don't know very much about computers and anything to do with them, so I dont know what verison I have, whether it's 1.0 or 1.5.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
Before all else, be armed.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.

[This message has been edited by Derek_Th3_Great (edited 07-17-2006 @ 03:06 PM).]

jameroquai
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 15:59 EDT (US)     5 / 19       
some factions wont give you their map info, if they naturally dont like your faction. btw isn't the gold edition fully patched when you buy it, i could'nt find any patches for it.
Chalupa Batman
Centurion
(id: ccsantos)
posted 17 July 2006 16:25 EDT (US)     6 / 19       
at the main screen of RTW it should show what version at the top right or something...or go into "Options" and it should be shown there as well..

As-Salaam-Alaikum
Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 16:43 EDT (US)     7 / 19       
It says I have the version 1.3.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
Before all else, be armed.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
Chalupa Batman
Centurion
(id: ccsantos)
posted 17 July 2006 16:47 EDT (US)     8 / 19       
The senate made it very hard for you then lol.

Your offers should be:
Map information
Offer Money: XXXX

Also, make sure you have a very influential diplomat. SOmetimes diplomats get bad "traits" if they aren't successful in negotiations.


As-Salaam-Alaikum

[This message has been edited by ccsantos (edited 07-17-2006 @ 04:47 PM).]

Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 17:42 EDT (US)     9 / 19       
should i offer my map info and money, and demand their map info with it? Or should I let them decide if their going to give the map info?

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
Before all else, be armed.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
Chalupa Batman
Centurion
(id: ccsantos)
posted 17 July 2006 17:53 EDT (US)     10 / 19       
demand it.

if you don't demand anything you won't get anything unless they come to you on their own accord. which is rare.

if an AI offers map information its usually an alliance offer too.


As-Salaam-Alaikum

[This message has been edited by ccsantos (edited 07-17-2006 @ 05:54 PM).]

Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 18:25 EDT (US)     11 / 19       
Thank you guys! I offered them 10,000 Denarii and map info and they accepted it. The thing is, it wasn't worth it. The Senate gave me only 1000 Denarii for. Luckily, I have about 100,000 Denarii left.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
Before all else, be armed.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
Teh_Diplomat
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 19:42 EDT (US)     12 / 19       
If you have explored quite a bit of terrain already(60-70%) of the map; or have traded map information with other factions it will make it much easier. It seems the A.I. isn't to keen to trade with the Human player if you haven't explored much outside your current borders. So it's more of a trade issue, just keep using it as trade.

It does two purposes. First it's a great way to build up a diplomats influence rating. If negotiations fail he will lose influence and be given 'tactless' as a trait.

Secondly, it's a great way to keep tabs on other factions. If you watch them carefully you can make sure egypt doesn't take all of the Middle orient and North Africa. Like wise Macedonia likes to expand all-through-out eastern-europe while you wiping out the Barbarians of Western europe. Same with thing with Germania and Gaul. They too have a tendency to conquer lots of territory if left unchecked for too long.


Hope that helps

jameroquai
Legionary
posted 17 July 2006 21:03 EDT (US)     13 / 19       
derek you should not have given away money for map information its never worth it, especially 10,000 denarii, when you want map info its better to offer map info and demand map info at the same time, your more likely to get a deal that way. you can also offer map info and some factions will pay quite a lot for it.
Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 18 July 2006 01:59 EDT (US)     14 / 19       
I did just that, but they wouldn't go for it. And offering the money did, and I'm trying to keep the Senate happy for a while.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
Before all else, be armed.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
jameroquai
Legionary
posted 18 July 2006 10:24 EDT (US)     15 / 19       
then leave the map info, 10,000 denarii is too much, maybe 1000 is accepltable but not 10.
Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 18 July 2006 13:07 EDT (US)     16 / 19       
Again, I did just that. I tried 1000 Denarii and it didn't work. I could have gave them 100,000 Denarii and still had plenty. It doesn't matter.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
Before all else, be armed.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
Chalupa Batman
Centurion
(id: ccsantos)
posted 18 July 2006 13:08 EDT (US)     17 / 19       
It sounds like you need to learn how to haggle Derek


As-Salaam-Alaikum
Derek_Th3_Great
Legionary
posted 18 July 2006 13:14 EDT (US)     18 / 19       
I said it didn't matter! I don't care that I gave them 10,000 Denarii, I can make that back in one turn.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it.
Before all else, be armed.
He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command
It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
Chalupa Batman
Centurion
(id: ccsantos)
posted 18 July 2006 13:20 EDT (US)     19 / 19       
ah roger that.

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