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Topic Subject:The Alexander Challenge
jackyboi1014
Legionary
posted 28 August 2012 11:01 EDT (US)         
I'm basing this challenge from the film Alexander.

Basically what I want to do is start a campaign as Macedon and take over all of Greece for the Macedonians. Then when I have done that I will choose a very young family member 18 or 19 and sail him over with a very good army to Asia minor.

When I take the first three settlements there I will leave some decent garrisons and move on throughout the battling the Seleucids if they are still alive, Pontus and Egypt.

When I have every single town and city captured leading to Memphis and Alexandria I will sail back up the nile river and back home to Greece.

Just wondering what you think of that idea and I will be recording it and posting it on youtube if you want to see how I do.

If I didnt explain the challenge well sorry about that.

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ShieldWall
Legionary
posted 28 August 2012 12:52 EDT (US)     1 / 9       
Sounds like a good idea to me. RTW can become over-complicated by the almost irresitable urge to create as many armies as your treasury can afford, and using them to expand your empire in all four of its corners. You end up with numerous armies advancing in different regions against different peoples, and it's easy to lose track of things. We've all been there surely, when you suddenly realise that you forgot to move an army during the previous turn? Or that band of rebels still hasn't been dealt with because you forgot that they existed because your previous turn took an hour to complete due to numerous sieges?

But your plan gets around this. By leaving behind garrisons you effectively still have multiple armies, but they either sit still and guard towns or river crossings, or you have them as a field army which never needs to move beyond its region and then only to deal with a threat which has suddenly materalised. The actions they require are therefore limited, and if there are no such threats then the only thing you have to focus on is your main army. Yeah, good idea.

I'd recommend that your little "Alexander" should have traits like "lively", because if you throw a geographer and quartermaster into his retinue, he'll be able to move very fast, even with siege equipment. A retinue to increase his fighting ability isn't so important, as he will be doing so much fighting that he'll become a superb general pretty quickly.

The big question though is will your Alexander actually sail back home to Greece after all his conquests, or will he stay in Seleucia and drink himself to an early grave?
jackyboi1014
Legionary
posted 28 August 2012 15:41 EDT (US)     2 / 9       
I plan to get him home safely and I was thinking of bringing older family members along to act as his generals. And I still have yet to decide if I will do it in Rome Total Realism of the vanilla game. But Ill probably have to leave some weakish units in each town and will reserve the decent units for my Alexanders Grand Army.

Ill try to pick a young family member with the right traits

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AKBK
Legionary
posted 28 August 2012 20:28 EDT (US)     3 / 9       
If you want to really recreate Alexander, you'll have to have taken all Asia Minor and Egypt before that character hit 30. So, 20-25 turns to take everything. I think you'll need all the movement points you can get... and a lot of spies so that you never burn a turn in a seige.
jackyboi1014
Legionary
posted 29 August 2012 11:52 EDT (US)     4 / 9       
Or I could set the turn time to four turns a year because I doubt that a young Alexander would sit on his arse twiddling his thumbs for six months at a time :P

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AKBK
Legionary
posted 29 August 2012 19:41 EDT (US)     5 / 9       
I wouldn't give up that quickly, with proper tactics you could do it. You'd need three waves; a horde of spies before your main army gets there, your main army to take the city, then a few steps behind them three or four more auxilary armies (1 of peasants to garrison newly conquered cities because New Alex ain't going to hang around, and 2-3 other half stacks of decent troops to mop up all the wandering enemy armies). Plan your conquests so that no movement is wasted backtracking to pick up that city you forgot.
Awesome Eagle
Spear of Mars
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posted 29 August 2012 21:31 EDT (US)     6 / 9       
To conqure his empire, Alexander didnt traverse and take every city. Try and follow his movements shown here:

This will mean you could have another army to take the ones the main army will miss.
Should be fun, i might do this one day. What are your plans for when the Romans come a calling?
So it looks like you will need to take out Greek cities, and Thrace maybe before you start your journey.

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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 30 August 2012 01:47 EDT (US)     7 / 9       
It doe slook like fun, but you do realize our Virtual World begins fifty years after the death of Alexander?

Alex never had to deal wiht the Romans. You will.

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jackyboi1014
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posted 30 August 2012 02:50 EDT (US)     8 / 9       
If I play on Rome Total Realism I wont have to deal with the Romans for a while. Also Macedon have a better starting position in Rome Total Realism imo. But obviously the conquest would be a lot harder :P

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ShieldWall
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posted 30 August 2012 04:41 EDT (US)     9 / 9       
With a powerful army I reckon it could be done reasonably quickly, well on vanilla in any case, RTR I assume has the map extending over to India - that could take time!

As for the Romans, a bit of poetic licence could be used here. Wipe them out while you're building up Macedon so that it can produce this great army, then let the cities rebel if you want. What units will you be taking with you?
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