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connorsgrandad
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posted 16 May 2020 18:17 EDT (US)         
First let me say "I hate the Romans - because as far as I know they are the only nation to make killing an entertainment industry. So I play Greeks or Carthaginian.
In RTW you are not well served by slingers. Which is more deadly, I'm not sure but the sling is cheaper, than bows and arrows, still deadly and I believe almost everyone had some skill with a sling.
I have been to Greece I never saw a tree except those foreign ones planted at the side of the roads. I was told wood is very expensive in Greece. In RTW 80 yards range is pathetic, that range is more like where David and Goliath started their fight. 600yds is possible when shooting at unit sized targets. I set sling range at 210 yards and use the "elite Rhodian slinger" Other slingers limited to 80 yards I take to be lower class much less skilled types. I also limit sling units to two maximum in an army.
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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 17 May 2020 12:03 EDT (US)     1 / 3       
Moving this to RTW Heaven.

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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 17 May 2020 12:23 EDT (US)     2 / 3       
In those days, slings were cheaper- just bits of leather, really. The problem with slings was they required an unusual level of skill to be effective. The slingers of Rhodes and the Belearics were raised since birth to use their weapons.

Bows and arrows took less skill, but were also less deadly. A lead bullet from a sling could punch through armor and kill a man. Arrows in the days of metal mail were more of a nuisance- wounding, painful, but not in and of themselves deadly. It took a lot of arrows- or a bit of luck- to land one between the shoulder paultron and the neck, or in the eye or throat, or past a scutum to pierce the thigh. All other potentially fatal areas were covered with thick metal.

Later, when longbows came around, archers could once again punch through armor and arrows and bolts became deadly.

Projectiles such as sling bullets and arrows could reach a lot further than the ranges given in the files. But were they lethal at that range? Could they penetrate to fatal depth from that range? I don't know, but I do agree that the ranges could be a bit more than what is given- I think some 'game-balancing' was part of it.

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connorsgrandad
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posted 18 May 2020 19:35 EDT (US)     3 / 3       
When I was in the balearics I was told there were still many experts with the sling. I am quite expert in ballistics. Both arrows and sling bullets lose energy due to air resistance but as they start off slow they dont lose much velocity. I have not done any calculations but I think a sling bullet would arrive at long arrow range with more energy and less penatrative power as its not pointed.
ps, sorry I was tired and posted in the wrong place.
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