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Topic Subject:Empire: Total War on Steam
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Legionary
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posted 28 October 2008 14:35 EDT (US)         
http://store.steampowered.com/news/1940/
SEGA Europe Ltd. today announce that Empire: Total War™ will incorporate Steamworks™, a complete suite of publishing and development tools that offers PC game developers and publishers access to the game features and services available through Steam.

Steamworks will support both the retail and electronic versions of the Empire: Total War game giving players game updates, downloadable content, friend-list support and achievements. To play single-player Empire: Total War, players need only to connect to the internet once via the Steam client after installing the game.

Steamworks will serve as Empire: Total War's multiplayer backend, providing server browsing and match-making functionality, bolstering Total War's new level of commitment to multiplayer game modes and features. Further details on multiplayer will be announced soon.

“We are delighted to be working with an infrastructure as effective as Steam” said Mike Simpson, Studio Director at the Creative Assembly. “Having their matchmaking and support systems on board for Empire; Total War makes a huge difference both for players and for the development team. It not only helps make multiplayer slick and sizzling, it also frees up a huge chunk of the team's time which helps make the whole game better.”

“Total War has become one of the most successful franchises in PC strategy gaming, one of the industry's mainstay genres,” said Gabe Newell, president of Valve. “We're honored Sega selected Steamworks as they expand the franchise with leading-edge online services.”

Empire: Total War is set in the 18th century, a turbulent era that is the most requested by Total War's loyal fan base and a period alive with global conflict, revolutionary fervour and technological advances. With themes such as the Industrial Revolution, America's struggle for independence, the race to control Eastern trade routes and the globalisation of war on land and sea, Empire: Total War promises to be the richest and most dynamic PC RTS game of all time. Empire: Total War will be released on February 3 in North America and on February 6 in Europe and other territories worldwide.

Pre-purchasers on Steam will receive a free copy of Rome: Total War Gold for immediate play.

[This message has been edited by Saxo Grammaticus (edited 11-12-2008 @ 11:38 AM).]

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New Roman
Legionary
posted 28 October 2008 16:29 EDT (US)     1 / 28       
OMG NO!!! i hate Steam
Aftermath
HG Alumnus
posted 28 October 2008 19:36 EDT (US)     2 / 28       
Why? Its great to have the option to buy and download via the internet and have it save your information.

Although I'll certainly be buying the boxed version (already got it paid for on Play.com) I'm sure there'll be many people who get it over Steam. A sensible move by CA given it's popularity and accessibility now.

Thanks for the heads up HSM

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Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus
posted 28 October 2008 19:43 EDT (US)     3 / 28       
The trouble with Steam is that patching and using mods is a pain. You can't use the ordinary patches.

However, the news item above seems to indicate that Steam will work with both electronic copies of ETW and box copies of ETW. And it'll be goodbye to Gamespy. Not before time.

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Gaius Colinius
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posted 28 October 2008 20:16 EDT (US)     4 / 28       
Did a bit of research. Steam is integral to ETW installation. It's basically the same as Half Life 2, in that it doesn't matter how you buy the game but you'll need Steam.

All mods will work because all versions of the game will use Steam.

You can play the game in single player without being online if you run Steam in offline mode. However, you do need to go online once when you install the game.

There's no more SecuROM.

Once you have bought it and tied it to your Steam account, you can download it again later even if you lose your CD's.

Patching will be easy and automatic.

No more cd key inputting errors!

I was a bit apprehensive at first but now I'm prepared to give a thumbs up to this.

It's all newsied on the front page. Thanks for the heads up HSM.

-Love Gaius
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Legionary
(id: Hairy Scary Man)
posted 28 October 2008 20:21 EDT (US)     5 / 28       
Patching through a service like Steam is a Godsend to PC gaming, at least in my opinion.

Aftermath
HG Alumnus
posted 28 October 2008 20:21 EDT (US)     6 / 28       
There's no more SecuROM.
Good news. I don't like being hassled once I've bought a game and treated like a criminal.
Once you have bought it and tied it to your Steam account, you can download it again later even if you lose your CD's.
Yay! After I moved house I lost countless PC CDs
Patching will be easy and automatic.
The biggest advantage, probably.

A f t y

A A R S

:: The Sun always rises in the East :: Flawless Crowns :: Dancing Days ::

"We kissed the Sun, and it smiled down upon us."
Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus
posted 28 October 2008 20:52 EDT (US)     7 / 28       
Imagine what the multiplayer is going to be like with EVERYBODY on Steam!

-Love Gaius
TWH Seraph, TWH Grand Zinquisitor & Crazy Gaius the Banstick Kid

Got news regarding Total War games that should be publicised? Then email m2twnews@heavengames.com. My blog.
Nelson was the typical Englishman: hot-headed, impetuous, unreliable, passionate, emotional & boisterous. Wellington was the typical Irishman: cold, reserved, calculating, unsentimental & ruthless" - George Bernard Shaw
Vote for McCain...he's not dead just yet! - HP Lovesauce

New Roman
Legionary
posted 28 October 2008 20:56 EDT (US)     8 / 28       
Well i must say...anything is better than gamespy for online play lol
Ibuprofen Redux
Legionary
posted 28 October 2008 21:40 EDT (US)     9 / 28       
I'm looking forward to this. At first, I didn't much like Steam, but it's certainly grown on me; it's very useful for communication, etc. I'll still be buying the physical game, because I really like the feel of the manual and the box and the discs and stuff (stop me if I'm getting too silly).

"...angry men must also be strong, if they would achieve their purpose."
-Livy
New Roman
Legionary
posted 28 October 2008 21:54 EDT (US)     10 / 28       
Yea i love my game boxes as well mate
CaesarVincens
Legionary
posted 29 October 2008 00:45 EDT (US)     11 / 28       
Well, I suppose I'll need to download Steam then...

As much as this can be a good thing, I really think it would have been better not to have required Steam to play the game. Instead allowing single-player play without Steam, but nothing else, would have been better in my opinion.

Veni, Vidi, well... you know.

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New Roman
Legionary
posted 29 October 2008 01:48 EDT (US)     12 / 28       
I think that is what they are doing with it. You can play single player without being logged onto Steam but it is absolutely required to be on for Online Multiplayer.
CaesarVincens
Legionary
posted 29 October 2008 02:30 EDT (US)     13 / 28       
I think that is what they are doing with it. You can play single player without being logged onto Steam but it is absolutely required to be on for Online Multiplayer.
Did a bit of research. Steam is integral to ETW installation. It's basically the same as Half Life 2, in that it doesn't matter how you buy the game but you'll need Steam.
You can play the game in single player without being online if you run Steam in offline mode. However, you do need to go online once when you install the game.

Veni, Vidi, well... you know.

Extended Cultures, A modification of RTW.

Si hoc legere posses, Latinam linguam scis.
ɪf ju kæn ɹid ðɪs, ju noʊ liŋgwɪstɪks.
zlack
Legionary
posted 29 October 2008 07:54 EDT (US)     14 / 28       
Check out this linky:
http://www.sega.co.uk/empire/gameinfo/pre_order.php
STEAM will also host and distribute the Empire: Total War game demo which will be available on the run-up to release.
There will be a demo.
We are also pleased to announce the Special Forces Edition of Empire: Total War. This premium-packaged edition of the title offers true aficionados of the series the chance to build their empire with the help of a range of exclusive elite units and plot their next move on a detailed print of the globe-spanning Campaign Map.
You have to be mad not to get this.
Special Forces Units
The following elite units are included as part of the Empire: Total War Special Forces Edition. This premium packaged edition for aficionados of the Total War series comes complete with a unique Steam unlock code. Once the game is installed and verified by Steam, players can enter their code and unlock these elite units which will then appear in the single player game.

HMS Victory - The Royal Navy’s most distinguished and formidable first rate ship of the line; Lord Nelson’s 104 gun flagship is one of the most heavily armed ships of the 18th Century.

Rogers’ Rangers - Major Robert Rogers’ company of rangers are highly trained elite light infantry, specialising in reconnaissance and special operations. They are extremely mobile in even the most challenging environments.

Ottoman Organ Gun - A viciously powerful field gun, able to inflict incredible damage on the opposing army. Emphatic proof of the Ottoman Empire’s advanced knowledge of gunpowder and firearms technology.

Ghoorkas - "Better to die than be a coward" has been the motto of these elite Nepalese soldiers for centuries. Disciplined, tough and courageous, they carry a deadly 18-inch long, curved knife known as the kukri.

Corso Terrestre Guerillas - An independent light infantry guerrilla regiment, experienced in skirmish and stealth tactics. Surprise raids and ambushes are the guerillas’ favoured tactics, a way to compensate for their limited number and light armour.

Bulkeley's Regiment - A French unit of Irish mercenaries with a fearsome reputation for hardiness. Exceptionally tough and resilient, they make for a highly flexible and dependable regiment.
I'm getting this!

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Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus
posted 29 October 2008 08:11 EDT (US)     15 / 28       
You can play single player without being logged onto Steam
No. You must be logged into Steam but you can log in "offline" mode.

-Love Gaius
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Vote for McCain...he's not dead just yet! - HP Lovesauce

zlack
Legionary
posted 29 October 2008 08:29 EDT (US)     16 / 28       
Does that mean you have to have a steam account to play on the game at all?

If that is the case, WTF??!!

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Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus
posted 29 October 2008 08:34 EDT (US)     17 / 28       
Yes. You MUST have a Steam account but if you wish you only need to access Steam online once when you install the game and can play in off-line mode after that.
Basically, ETW will be the same as Half Life 2. You cannot play it without Steam. At least not legally.

Good spot with the Special Forces Edition of Empire: Total War btw. I came online just to news it and you had beaten me to it.

-Love Gaius
TWH Seraph, TWH Grand Zinquisitor & Crazy Gaius the Banstick Kid

Got news regarding Total War games that should be publicised? Then email m2twnews@heavengames.com. My blog.
Nelson was the typical Englishman: hot-headed, impetuous, unreliable, passionate, emotional & boisterous. Wellington was the typical Irishman: cold, reserved, calculating, unsentimental & ruthless" - George Bernard Shaw
Vote for McCain...he's not dead just yet! - HP Lovesauce

[This message has been edited by Gaius Colinius (edited 10-29-2008 @ 08:35 AM).]

CaesarVincens
Legionary
posted 29 October 2008 11:35 EDT (US)     18 / 28       
I'm all for special edition versions of games, but when there is special gameplay content, I think that is really unfair.

But again, someone will have created a port mod for those within the first couple days, so no huge deal.

I suppose one has to love the moddability of TW.

Veni, Vidi, well... you know.

Extended Cultures, A modification of RTW.

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Scipii
TWH Seraph
posted 29 October 2008 11:54 EDT (US)     19 / 28       
Another game with internet activation which is good and bad, the downside being those who lack internet access cannot play the game in singleplayer the old way. Not to critise Steam or Creative Assembly but Relic Entertainment had a much better idea which allowed those without internet access to play singleplayer using the disk and those with internet access to not have to use the disk by logging into their online account.

I would of prefered a two tiered protection system, essentially (like in Company of Heroes) the game detects whether or not you have an internet connection. If it does detect an internet connect and is able to connect to the Relic Online server then you can log into your online account to play both multiplayer and singleplayer (it doesn't give the option of using the disc if there is an internet connection detected and you can connect to the Relic Online servers though). While if the game does not detect an internet connection, or is unable to connect to the Relic Online servers, it asks you to insert the disk and allows you to play single player.

Personally its a much better solution if implimented right considering that there are people who (perhaps suprisingly) do not have an internet connection but yet play the Total War series. Seems like anyone who plays the Total War series yet doesn't have internet access to activate Empire: Total War might just be disappointed and will have to miss out on what appears will be a great game.

[This message has been edited by Scipii (edited 10-29-2008 @ 11:55 AM).]

Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus
posted 29 October 2008 13:24 EDT (US)     20 / 28       
Surely they can get a net connection just the once. Everybody here has it!
I'm all for special edition versions of games, but when there is special gameplay content, I think that is really unfair.
If those units were to be available in online battles, that might be a major problem unless they were made prohibitively expensive.

-Love Gaius
TWH Seraph, TWH Grand Zinquisitor & Crazy Gaius the Banstick Kid

Got news regarding Total War games that should be publicised? Then email m2twnews@heavengames.com. My blog.
Nelson was the typical Englishman: hot-headed, impetuous, unreliable, passionate, emotional & boisterous. Wellington was the typical Irishman: cold, reserved, calculating, unsentimental & ruthless" - George Bernard Shaw
Vote for McCain...he's not dead just yet! - HP Lovesauce

Scipii
TWH Seraph
posted 29 October 2008 14:13 EDT (US)     21 / 28       
Surely they can get a net connection just the once. Everybody here has it!
To avoid any drama I expect to see somewhere in clear view on the box to see "Requires Internet Activation", or whatever phrase Sega want to use. Electronic Arts follows the practise of printing "Requires Internet Activation" even on one time internet activation products to avoid any legal problems.
zlack
Legionary
posted 01 November 2008 10:32 EDT (US)     22 / 28       
Yes. You MUST have a Steam account but if you wish you only need to access Steam online once when you install the game and can play in off-line mode after that.
Oh great. My dad really isn't going to be happy about his, but he won't stop me getting this game.

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gazsmith6
Legionary
posted 04 November 2008 05:20 EDT (US)     23 / 28       
At first i thought great! No having to worry about having to have a copy of the game on me all the time, or worrying about CD getting scratched. However i did a mock purchase and for people here in the UK, steam is a very expensive option, even with RTW Gold free. $50 plus nearly $10 tax or fee means we will be paying over 40 quid at current exchange rates. So i think i will wait for the special forces boxed edition.

Fight to the death!!! Take as many of the enemy with you that you can!!!

Hell no it's just a game...... Right?
Gaius Colinius
Seraph Emeritus
posted 04 November 2008 17:43 EDT (US)     24 / 28       
Ah yes. The weak sterling is a pain for purchases outside the UK.

-Love Gaius
TWH Seraph, TWH Grand Zinquisitor & Crazy Gaius the Banstick Kid

Got news regarding Total War games that should be publicised? Then email m2twnews@heavengames.com. My blog.
Nelson was the typical Englishman: hot-headed, impetuous, unreliable, passionate, emotional & boisterous. Wellington was the typical Irishman: cold, reserved, calculating, unsentimental & ruthless" - George Bernard Shaw
Vote for McCain...he's not dead just yet! - HP Lovesauce

Imperial Justice
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posted 12 November 2008 09:29 EDT (US)     25 / 28       
I don't really like this at all. I do have an internet connection, otherwise I wouldn't be writing this now - but my internet connection is on my Mac. My PC, which runs all of my games, does not have an internet connection. This may seem highly unusual and it is, but the reason is fairly simple: I could never really be bothered to go through the whole damn business of buying anti-virus software just to use the internet, so I use my Mac instead, which doesn't require any expensive anti-virus programs. Unfortunately the PC does.

This is so annoying. Why does every game released nowadays seem to require this "internet activation" crap? Red Alert 3 is another example of this, and so I haven't played it yet as I can't. Obviously if I want to I will certainly be able to get an internet connection for my PC well before Empire's release date, but it'll be expensive because of the cost of anti-virus software.

Oh well. I suppose I'd better get around to doing it. Then maybe once I am using my PC for the internet as well as my Mac, I can join you guys in some multiplayer games. But that aside, I do not understand why so many games nowadays need this. Why do companies do it? What is the point of steam? Can someone please explain to me why steam is needed?

Neither the pure land nor hell exists outside oneself; both lie only within one’s own heart. Awakened to this, one is called a Buddha; deluded about it, one is called an ordinary person. The Lotus Sutra reveals this truth, and one who embraces the Lotus Sutra will realize that hell is itself the Land of Tranquil Light.
- Nichiren Daishonin

[This message has been edited by Imperial Justice (edited 11-12-2008 @ 09:30 AM).]

Gallowglass
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posted 12 November 2008 11:23 EDT (US)     26 / 28       
The Internet on my gaming computer is on and off (rather like the gaming computer). To be honest, after seeing some of the previews of what they've been working on recently, I wasn't so sure about actually playing ETW. This...they are pushing it.

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Gaius Colinius
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posted 12 November 2008 11:36 EDT (US)     27 / 28       
What is the point of steam? Can someone please explain to me why steam is needed?
Not being smart but a read of the thread contents would give you an excellent overview of what Steam is and what the pros & cons of ETW on Steam will be.
The Internet on my gaming computer is on and off (rather like the gaming computer). To be honest, after seeing some of the previews of what they've been working on recently, I wasn't so sure about actually playing ETW. This...they are pushing it.
Read post 17. You can connect online just once and then play in offline mode forever after if you wish. After all, if you download patches for the existing TW games, you need the internet too so I don't see what the great difficulty is.

-Love Gaius
TWH Seraph, TWH Grand Zinquisitor & Crazy Gaius the Banstick Kid

Got news regarding Total War games that should be publicised? Then email m2twnews@heavengames.com. My blog.
Nelson was the typical Englishman: hot-headed, impetuous, unreliable, passionate, emotional & boisterous. Wellington was the typical Irishman: cold, reserved, calculating, unsentimental & ruthless" - George Bernard Shaw
Vote for McCain...he's not dead just yet! - HP Lovesauce

darthvincor
Legionary
posted 13 November 2008 01:10 EDT (US)     28 / 28       
Wow...and all this time I thought Steam was some kind of mini expansion that came with the original game, allowing the use of steam engines in the game. I was wondering why that was such an issue.
But now I know.
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