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Topic Subject:The Art of Countering Flanking Attempts
Hannibal the Conqueror
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posted 29 June 2013 14:09 EDT (US)         
GENERAL GUIDE TO ANTI-FLANKING TACTICS IN SINGLEPLAYER




There are a hundred ways which could be used to destroy even the most powerful and numerous armies, on the field of battle. Throughout history, commanders and generals have used flanking to their advantage, rendering their enemies helpless and confusing their own commanders. Flanking is arguably the most effective way to defeat an enemy army, and today we shall discuss how to prevent your men from suffering the same fate as many others did.


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For the purpose of this tutorial, I shall fight 4 battles with 4 factions which would best represent, in my opinion, the composition and troop types of the rest of the factions.


Countering flanking attempts does not have to do only with battlefield tactics and the like, you have to keep your armies prepared for these kinds of military maneuvers by placing units that could counter a flanking attempt successfully, depending on what kind of troops your enemy can field.


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1. The Legions of Rome

Arguably the most powerful and versatile of all the other armies, the Roman legions have a great variety of unit types which when used properly, can eliminate any possibility of being flanked, or reduce it's effects.

Rome has some powerful cavalry too, which can be used to fend off any cavalry-led flanking attempts.

Now, I shall simulate a battle with a small number of men, and the same tactics can be used for larger armies as long as the troop composition remains the same. In this battle, the House of Julii will defend an attack by an army of the Gauls. The battle will also be done on VH difficulty, so that if you master the tactics displayed here, fighting against enemies with a lower level of difficulty will not be a problem.


This is how the Roman army starts out. Classic formation, heavy infantry at the front, cavalry at the flanks.



As usual, the enemy will try to flank your main formation, or outflank you. The proper approach to such a situation is quite easy and simple, but nevertheless I shall demonstrate it here.




As you can see here, the enemy will try to lure you to charge his swordsmen with your cavalry, so that they may use their cavalry to charge yours which are already in combat.



Now I really didn't expect that the enemy is this stupid, but they have charged their cavalry at our Urban Cohorts, which is a rather stupid thing to do. Nevertheless, your general can be used to charge at enemy units when your own are in danger. Always use him where your men need him the most, preferably against cavalry or light infantry. Using him against heavy infantry might not produce the desired consequences, and might actually cause him to rout.



Now, it's time to be proactive. When your enemy has miserably failed in flanking you, the rest of his men will usually start to panic and may attack your troops head on instead of reorganizing. Use your cavalry to outflank the enemy, once most of their forces have routed or no forces dangerous enough remain.



A clear victory, which shows us how useful can counter-flanking tactics be when used correctly.





SUMMARY: Undoubtedly one of the best factions in the game, the Romans have an advantage over most armies with their well-disciplined legions, and a strong cavalry force as well. The Romans' approach to battle is pretty straightforward, no hit and run tactics or anything. Their heavy infantry outdo those of most of the other factions in all aspects, and their cavalry can be used to protect the flanks thanks to their training and superiority, and they can also be used to support your heavy infantry by charging at the enemy's flank or rear, which may come in handy when you're up against phalanx units. Overall a good army, with a variety of infantry and cavalry to choose from, which may aid you in your future conquests.

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2. Phalanxes of Macedon

Although lacking in mobility, the phalanx formation was very popular in ancient history and used by many armies, until it was obsolete several hundreds of years later. Here, we shall see how effective a regular Macedonian army would be against a Roman legionary army. The phalanxes would prove invincible as the advancing Romans are not as powerful, but it is in such situations where a cavalry charge at the unprotected flanks of a phalanx unit would decisively end the battle. This is why it is of utmost importance that you have several cavalry units at your disposal whenever fighting an enemy with the same too. Although alternative tactics can be used to a certain degree when you don't have cavalry and are stuck with phalanx units, they are too risky to implement.


Macedonian Army composition: 1 Armoured General, 4 Phalanx Pikemen, 2 Companion Cav.

Roman Army: 1 Armoured General, 4 Early Legionary Cohorts, 2 Legionary Cavalry.


The conditions for this battle have not changed much. The enemy will always attack your cavalry and when they're done, they will attack your phalanxes. You must charge the enemy cavalry with your forces, and use your general to support your cavalry fighting at either flank. You should also use any idle phalanx unit to support your cavalry if it is attacked from the rear, this will devastate enemy morale as well. Once done with the attacking enemy forces, use your cavalry to outflank the rest of the enemy forces and cause mayhem among their ranks, they will be forced to attack your main line and pursue your cavalry, which you should use to your advantage. Trapping pursuing enemy units, preferably infantry, between two of your cavalry units and then charging in will box the individual enemy unit and crush it's morale.






SUMMARY: The Macedonians have some of the most powerful phalanx units, which could even be used against their Greek neighbors due to the advantage of having longer spears. Though superior in infantry, they lack the proper kind of cavalry or troops to support their heavy infantry in combat, as the Companions are inferior to their Roman counterparts and can only slow them down. It is best to use several archers or skirmishers with the Macedonian armies, a mixture of all kinds of men, or what we now know as combined arms, can be of great use to you and would increase your tactical options, eventually contributing to your chances of winning the battle.
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3. Seleucid Silver Shields


This time, instead of cavalry, we'll be dealing with chariots, a menace to all who face them on the field of battle. There is a simple trick to deal with chariots, and that is; don't do anything. Yes, that's right. Just don't do anything. Chariots will charge your men head on, and simply put, tight formations are chariot-killers. Not only will their poorly built wagons be crushed due to the mass of infantry they're headed to, but even if they survive the initial charge, chariots will have to deal with a whole bunch of angry silver shields with long and pointy spears, and I honestly wouldn't want to be in their position.

Cavalry might be a little different to use against chariots. Cavalry die easier since their formation is not as tightly packed as infantry, so staying put isn't always the best idea. The best way to deal with chariots is a hit and run tactic, order your men to charge, withdraw and charge again would devestate the chariots as cavalry, based on my experience, tend to target individual charioteers and attack them at once. This will make it somewhat easier for your cavalry.



Seleucid composition: 1 armored general, 4 silver shield phalanx, 2 companion cavalry

Egyptian composition: 1 chariot general, 4 pharaoh phalanx, 2 chariot (melee)

Hint: Always deploy on higher ground if you can. Charging uphill will be exhausting for your enemy and will be less effective, while charging downhill for your men will give them more momentum thus increasing the impact of the charge.




Most of the enemy flanking attempts were as usual, conducted against our cavalry, so the best thing to do is to counter-charge, as chariots can easily wipe out cavalry units if they stand still.





In cases where the enemy general has archers on his chariots, the best thing to do is to wait until they have used up their arrows. Take your main phalanx units and make them face the enemy so that their shields can absorb the impact of the arrows. Once they are out of arrows, they will be forced to go into melee combat with your men, and then, you can easily crush them.






SUMMARY: A powerful army which has the best of both worlds. Not only do the Seleucids have arguably the most powerful phalanx unit in the game, the Silver Shields, but they (unlike other Eastern factions) have the Silver Shield Legionaries! These are of extreme use, having an advantage over what infantry can the Pontic or Armenian peoples field, and are superior to all the infantry units of the East, excluding the phalanx units. They also happen to have Elephants, beasts of monstrous size capable of knocking down the greatest of gates and trampling over their opponents with ease. Elephants are perfect for breaking through enemy lines with ease and demolishing their plans, as not only does their charge obliterate all in their way, but the smell and looks of those beasts instill fear in the hearts of the bravest of men. Although their cavalry is the same as the Macedonians, by the time the Romans reach your vast lands with their legions you will have the means to deploy a deadly mixture of Silver Shield Legionaries, Silver Shield Pikemen, War Elephants and several more!

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4. Parthian Horse Archers

The Parthians and their horse archers put the advance of the Roman legions to a halt when no other army could. Why? The answer is simple; horse archers. The Romans had no means of protecting their legions from the Parthian horse archers with a lack of archers and slower cavalry. Their testudo formation also made them susceptible to heavy cavalry charges which were simply devestating. This time, we will see how well can we do as Parthia, against a force of Romans with a considerable number of accompanying cavalry.

Parthians: Armoured Eastern Gen., 2 eastern infantry and 4 persian horse archers, along with 2 cataphract camels.

Romans: Armoured General, 4 Urban Cohorts, 4 Legionary Cavalry.


HINT: If you play as the Romans and have some difficulties with the Parthians in situations like this, it is best to have some cavalry auxilia around as the lightness of their equipment can enable them to move around as fast or even faster than the Parthian horsemen.

And we begin.




The best tactic to lure the enemy units away from the main army, you can do that by sending in your horse archers early on and have them attack the enemy. They might send in their entire army or their cavalry, and you might get lucky if they send in their general. Use your heavy cavalry to charge the enemy before the rest of the units catch up, but beware, the cohorts are fast.



In these kinds of battles, the Parthians have no heavy infantry to match that of the Romans. Your best bet is to charge at the enemy cavalry, using the baiting technique described above, and preferably when they are alone. Once you rid the Romans of their mobile units, they will have absolutely no way of attacking your horsemen, and you can enjoy watching them die in pain.





The thing about most Eastern factions, is that they have cataphracts. These can crush almost any enemy unit, be it cavalry or heavy infantry, with ease. They are especially useful at flanking and outflanking enemy forces. They might be more suited to that role in a more regular army, like that of Pontus. However, a commander with enough brains can easily use the cataphracts to his advantage, regardless of what infantry he has in his possession.




It is men like these that make our days at battle hilarious. These men are perfect targets for your heavy cavalry, their testudo formation reduces their ability to fight properly, and you can easily encircle or crush them.




The Parthians' might lies in their horsemen, not their infantry. An all-cataphract army of even 3 units can destroy an enemy by using flanking maneuvers to their advantage.




SUMMARY:
My personal favorite, the Parthians have the some of the most powerful cavalry armies in the world, from horsemen to the deadly cataphracts. A clever tactician can annihilate all of his foes with a few cataphracts and horse archers. Using the baiting and hit and run tactics displayed above, your foes will bow before your might. Cataphracts and horse archers can also be problematic for all commanders, regardless of their experience or skill, as their apparently random actions and unusual methods for combat are unpredictable and thus, enemy commanders won't be able to formulate proper plans to counter your cavalry. Another advantage of the Parthians is that they need not deploy any infantry to protect their lands, they have innumerable horses and horsemen, and these alone will make any invader think twice before launching offensives into Parthian land.


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GENERAL PURPOSE TACTICS


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REFUSING A FLANK


Refusing a flank is a simple and easy-to-apply tactic, in which one of your flanks will be left completely exposed, preferably with fast units in place, while the other flank will have your most elite and powerful units. This tactic might entice inexperienced commanders into charging at your exposed flank, thus revealing their own flanks. With your heavy troops, you can easily flank or even outflank the opponent's army (depends on it's size) and thus crush the enemy. However, it should be noted that this tactic may not always work, some commanders will see through your trick while others might prefer to charge head-on into your stronger side, therefore there are some risks present when using this tactic.

The tactic is demonstrated here, with the Roman faction. It's a general purpose tactic and as such can be used with almost all the factions.

The method for deploying your troops is simple in principle. The best way is to deploy your lighter and faster units at the refused flank, while your heavier troops are at the other. This way, you can annihilate your opponent's force as his flanks are exposed to your elite troops.

Note the presence of two units behind the army; these are reserves, and should be called upon whenever the units holding the flank are about to rout.




The enemy commander will usually start bringing his entire army in the direction of your exposed flank.







Your opponent would most probably throw most of his army at your unrefused flank, and his cavalry behind your men. This is where you start acting.




You should start by evenly spreading out your forces at the unrefused flank in an elliptical manner, and approach the bulk of the enemy forces. This will ensure that they will be completely enclosed and have nowhere to go.



Remember to leave the enemy an opening for escape, disregard what I had said earlier. Your objective here is to drive out a numerically superior force against which you have little chance of winning in a head-on fight.

By now, several enemy units should be routing.




And eventually, you should be victorious.



However, I must warn you that this tactic does not always work. It only works when the commander is extremely foolish, or easily provoked and impatient. If the commander is experienced or smart he could see through your strategy and devise a counter for it.


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MACEDONIAN FIST


The Macedonian Fist is a simple yet effective tactic, which involves deploying almost all of your cavalry on one flank and deploying a small force to guard the other. When the battle takes place, your large cavalry force can easily flank and annihilate the main enemy force while the cavalry on the other flank defend it from the enemy's flanking forces.

Most of the cavalry has been deployed on the right flank.



As usual, the enemy always tries to flank you no matter the odds.



You should counter any flanking force, and proceed to flank the enemy on both sides. It's always better to use every available asset you have.



After you annihilate the enemy, you should mop up their routing forces.

Victory!


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I hope this guide has helped you in protecting your men from flanking maneuvers, as well as launching your own. Good luck in your future battles and conquests, general!

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Links coming in a couple of minutes.



Edited and updated according to AE's advice.

I appreciate your advice Terikel, but unfortunately I wont be putting in the RTW battle pics for the refused flank tactics; the AI is unpredictable in some cases and disregards the weaker flank. I would be putting up illustrations instead.

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Hannibal the Conqueror
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posted 30 June 2013 06:49 EDT (US)     1 / 44       
Does anyone have any advice on how I could improve the article?

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posted 30 June 2013 07:11 EDT (US)     2 / 44       
Sorry, only just saw this.

Well done, a nice thougher article! Unfortuantly i have a poor eye for grammer and spelling, so i will leave that to others better suited.

On the whole, this is well done and vey complete. How about however, a summary at the end of the faction of the article or under each army of the most essential lessons/points to take away from this? But other than possibly that, well done!

Oh, and put in the correct numbers for your Parthian army..

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posted 30 June 2013 07:16 EDT (US)     3 / 44       
Will do, thanks!

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posted 01 July 2013 12:00 EDT (US)     4 / 44       
Should I invoke the two-day rule, or does something else require my attention?

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posted 01 July 2013 12:16 EDT (US)     5 / 44       
I haven't had a chance to properly read this, so please hold off a bit.

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posted 01 July 2013 14:44 EDT (US)     6 / 44       
okay.

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posted 02 July 2013 00:52 EDT (US)     7 / 44       
You put in some very good tips and tactics. Since this is an article on flanking and counter-flanking, you might want to add the tips of refusing a flank, holding a second (or even third) unit behind the ends of the battle line, and the Macedonian "Put almost all cavalry on one flank" tip.

Refusing a flank is what Epaminondas did against the Spartans at Leuctra- you basically trail one flank and not hit the enemy with a straight-on line. Your first units hit, the enemy will either stand fast or try to wrap around the engages units. If they wrap, then they are exposing their own flanks to your trailing forces, which can then crush them.

I often put a unit of militia hoplites or auxilia or spearmen directly behind the ends of my lines, set back some sixty paces or so. Anyone hitting my flanks gets nailed by those cats. They are far enough back to present a second target and not get caught up in the flanking maneuver themselves, yet are cose enough to come to the aid of those attacked.

Proactively, the Macedonian Fist works wonders. Leave enough cavalry on one flank to deter aggression tehre, and pop the rest (I usually leave two on the left, and put four on the right) on the fr flank. Crush his anti-flanking people, then pound the living crap out of his main line from side or rear. Sometimes this is so effective my infantry never even get their swords wet.

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posted 02 July 2013 02:20 EDT (US)     8 / 44       
Going to implement all of the tactics you mentioned. Thanks for the lengthy advice

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posted 02 July 2013 04:20 EDT (US)     9 / 44       
Viking ships were mostly wind-powered on the open sea.

Windbags like me, filled with hot air, were invaluable in discovering the New World, or just getting about in general.


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posted 02 July 2013 19:12 EDT (US)     10 / 44       
Some comments:

Though very boring, as a phalanx civ you can simply make a curved bow formation and if your curve goes far enough ot the back the AI will never attack it in the back. Archers can shoot from behind the spears and your cavalry can move from the back of the curve to outflank or chase the men who broke on the spears. Against human players this will likely not work too wel, since they will obviously hit your exposed back. It also can be problematic if the enemy has missile superiority or better phalanx. Especially against Egypt this only works well if you bring enough cretans.

This tactic proved really great as Pontus (see the pontus swap game thread - how goes it with that?)

As pretty much any other civ, keep 1 or more spear units behind your main line on both flanks with some cavalry.
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posted 25 July 2013 16:15 EDT (US)     11 / 44       
A very interesting article Hannibal and one I enjoyed quite thoroughly. Coming from a Med 2 player my favorite faction is the Turks and I basically surround the enemy armies with my HA's and whittle them down to pieces. Suffice to say I have been outflanked on several occasions that have quickly turned into clear defeats.....but my favorite strategy to use to outflank and enemy army is the trailing flank that Terikel mentioned. It worked wonders on any sort of army you have that is mostly infantry based. But the the AI is too stupid to realize when his entire army is about to be crushed between my army and the walls of Venice LOL....Good article bro

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posted 16 August 2013 06:40 EDT (US)     12 / 44       
Please implement your final changes and then the two day implemented and this can be posted..

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posted 19 August 2013 15:37 EDT (US)     13 / 44       
Updated.


EDIT: Almost forgot, thanks Khalid and Thompsoncs

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posted 21 August 2013 10:01 EDT (US)     14 / 44       
Should I invoke the two day rule, or is there anything that's still missing/wrong?

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posted 21 August 2013 12:14 EDT (US)     15 / 44       
Consider it invoked.

Its purpose is to place a well-muscled kick up the backsides of those who wish to comment but are either too lazy or too forgetfull or too timid to do so before the item goes up.

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posted 21 August 2013 14:43 EDT (US)     16 / 44       
Thanks

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posted 23 August 2013 06:45 EDT (US)     17 / 44       
BUMP

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posted 23 August 2013 16:59 EDT (US)     18 / 44       
On it. Should be up soon

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posted 31 December 2015 21:15 EDT (US)     19 / 44       
So I was playing Napoleon TW, got it off the Humble Bundle that CA was in on ( ), and playing as the Russians, my ass was getting handed to me every single battle, as the difficulty is Very Hard, and the units turning the tide of the battle were a couple of lancers, no more than 100 men, who were slaughtering hundreds upon hundreds of my own. I googled "How to counter flanking manoeuvres", and guess which site comes up second place on the first page? OURS OF COURSE. HURRAY!



But yeah, pls get this article up :P

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posted 01 January 2016 05:50 EDT (US)     20 / 44       
I don't like this article very much tbh, from a purely rtw multiplayer perspective at least. Should work fine against the AI though.
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posted 01 January 2016 09:37 EDT (US)     21 / 44       
Thanks for bumping this, Kim.

I see now that Hannibal edited his post. I had missed that.

This is an article for the Campaign/Battle section, thus for versus the AI.

Feel free to pen one up for Multiplayer. I would like to see the difference.

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posted 01 January 2016 14:57 EDT (US)     22 / 44       
KimJongLi I'm planning on reading several works on tactics and strategy, so I might make a more refined version of this article for MP battles later on.


Tenkz Terikel



Gods, an MP one is going to be hard as hell but I'll try.

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posted 01 January 2016 17:17 EDT (US)     23 / 44       
Fight me lol, gl with yours, ill get my draft up soon hopefully, ive been meaning to pump out a few more MP guides over the holidays.
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posted 02 January 2016 06:47 EDT (US)     24 / 44       
Let Kim do the Multiplayer one.

Hannibal, you concentrate on your piece.

Everybody happy.

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posted 03 January 2016 05:39 EDT (US)     25 / 44       
Hei,

Working on this. I am having some trouble with the pictures, it will take some time to sort out. But progress is being made.

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posted 03 January 2016 08:49 EDT (US)     26 / 44       
'Tis ok, thanks Terikel

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posted 10 January 2016 05:20 EDT (US)     27 / 44       
Although their cavalry is the same as the Macedons,
I know I am just nitpicking here and I hope you don't take offense, but;

1. The Seleucids have cataphracts; Macedon doesn't.
2. Instead of "Macedons" use "Macedonians'".

Apart from that, great article! Oh, wait, the two-day rule's already taken effect, hasn't it? Is it still too late to do anything?

Oh well, just something I wanted to help Hannibal out with. Also, it really bugged me and I had to get it out of my system before I ripped my face off from sheer irritation (not your fault).

Papers, please.

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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 10 January 2016 11:48 EDT (US)     28 / 44       
Nitpicking is fine as long as it does not require an entire re-write. Something like "Greek Cavalry makes a wonderful counter to a Cataphract charge".

Correcting spelling and grammar can be done anytime. It prevents us from looking like asses.

I am pretty sure I can wordsmith something equating the heavy cavalries of macedon and the seleucids, if that is what he meant.

I have gotten the pictures resized and uploaded. Now I have to pop the correct code into the correct spot. This can take a while longer as my connection is glacial and my free time evaporating.

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posted 11 January 2016 05:05 EDT (US)     29 / 44       
Thanks Mons!

I'll work on editing the article later when I come back from school.

"I long for Darkness."
- Cormac McCarthy, The Sunset Limited.

"We are a species that ravages, plunders, kills, destroys, rapes and enslaves in the name of progress."
Mons Badonicus
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posted 11 January 2016 06:11 EDT (US)     30 / 44       
No problem! I'm listening to that wonderful Viking bardic band - ABBA; Take A Chance On Me is playing right now and I'm feeling more cheerful than usual.

Looking forward to this article. Finally, a way to stop those damn Greeks slipping past my Equites with their Militia Cav!

It's fitting that the general who outflanked and surrounded the Romans at Cannae should write an article on flanking. Heh.

Also, another nitpick: some of the pictures are comfortably sized while the others are still microscopic. Just a heads up. It doesn't really matter; you can just click on the picture and zoom in if you want.

"and you know I've got/so much that I want to do..."

Papers, please.

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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 12 January 2016 02:24 EDT (US)     31 / 44       
Shall I stop the coding then and let you revoke the Two-Day Rule?

That seems to be the gist of "I'll work on editing the article later when I come back from school"

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posted 20 January 2016 03:53 EDT (US)     32 / 44       
Still awaiting a reply.

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posted 22 January 2016 03:06 EDT (US)     33 / 44       
Whoops, sorry, yes please, I am revoking the Two-Day rule so that I can work on fine-tuning a couple of things in this article.

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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 22 January 2016 04:34 EDT (US)     34 / 44       
Is good.

I can wait.

I am really good at it.

I have had lots of practice at waiting.

Military life teaches one hurry up and wait. I was a damned good soldier.

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posted 15 March 2016 05:36 EDT (US)     35 / 44       
Bump.

Papers, please.
KimJongLi
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posted 21 March 2016 05:21 EDT (US)     36 / 44       
Since it is almost the term break for me over here. I could post up some criticisms I have soon? If this article is still a work in progress that is.

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Mons Badonicus
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posted 22 March 2016 02:48 EDT (US)     37 / 44       
Funny how small this world is...
Kim and I actually go to the same school. I found that out when I went on Steam and found him in a group dedicated to our school.

I am wantink zis artikl to get up on ze website soon. Its going to be school holidays which means article time...

Papers, please.
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posted 18 April 2016 06:34 EDT (US)     38 / 44       
Invoking the two day rule again.


I'll be working on a new article that deals with countering flanking manoeuvres in multiplayer matches.

"I long for Darkness."
- Cormac McCarthy, The Sunset Limited.

"We are a species that ravages, plunders, kills, destroys, rapes and enslaves in the name of progress."

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posted 18 April 2016 11:28 EDT (US)     39 / 44       
Invoked.

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posted 24 April 2016 05:09 EDT (US)     40 / 44       
I will probably be coding this on Tuesday. FYI.

So any last-mionute changes you want to add, do it before Monday.

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posted 24 April 2016 17:14 EDT (US)     41 / 44       
'tis done, the article is ready.

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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 26 April 2016 12:12 EDT (US)     42 / 44       
Sorry, I got hung up with chores, and with tomorrow being King's Day, probably Thursday. This is not forgotten, just things keep getting in the way.

Apologies.

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posted 28 April 2016 07:10 EDT (US)     43 / 44       
Posted and Newsied.

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posted 03 May 2016 06:11 EDT (US)     44 / 44       
Thanks!

"I long for Darkness."
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"We are a species that ravages, plunders, kills, destroys, rapes and enslaves in the name of progress."
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