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Topic Subject: Question about Bronze Shields (Pontic)
posted 04 August 2011 13:16 EDT (US)   
Is this the worst unit that comes out of any city barracks, or am I just using them wrong?

Their stats are almost identical to the phalanx pikemen of Thrace... the only difference being the good morale and good stamina.

They take heavy casualties in every battle I deploy them in, and they're nearly impossible to retrain because of how few city barracks'es there are. Basically, after every battle I have to send the affect units back to Rome or Greece to retrain.

I feel like they're a waste of time, now, and no better than ordinary pikemen. Is this true?
posted 04 August 2011 16:20 EDT (US)     1 / 6  
Bronze Shields have exactly the same stats as the Seleucids' Silver Shield Pikemen. They are superior to the standard Pontic Phalanx Pikemen only because there are half again as many of them. They are a little better than the standard Phalanx Pikemen of Macedonia, Thrace, and the Seleucids.
As for fixing units, I recommend making an extra unit or two and having them follow your main army. When you take casualties in the main army, use the extra units to replace those losses (on the campaign map, move them into the main army, then move their unit card over the damaged unit to bring it back up to full strength).

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posted 05 August 2011 17:01 EDT (US)     2 / 6  
Didn't know about that unit card thing. Thanks for the advice!
posted 11 August 2011 07:45 EDT (US)     3 / 6  
i always thought they were horrible.

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posted 16 August 2011 18:30 EDT (US)     4 / 6  
I wouldn't really bother too much with them. Phalanx quality is more important phalanx vs phalanx and the ai doesn't really use elite phalanxes often.

They cost 2 turns so I prefer phalanx pikes who are just slightly worse. Phalanx pikes are good enough for pinning enemy units so you can flank with cav.

I think Bronze shields are best used as border garrison to block enemy advance through the streets when they besiege you. Better phalanx means a little less losses normally.
posted 16 August 2011 21:28 EDT (US)     5 / 6  
Thanks! That's the conclusion I'd pretty much come to.

P.s. are you guy that owned me with archers a few hours ago?
posted 13 October 2011 08:00 EDT (US)     6 / 6  
Maybe I am making a mistake but I consider This Unit as one of the best.
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