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Andalus
Legionary
posted 27 May 2009 06:17 EDT (US)         
I believe I am correct in saying that many of the Mongols eventually converted to Christianity, and some already were prior to Temujin's unification. Would it be possible to give the Mongols an option to convert their religion, as Lithuania can in the Teutonic campaign? Might be a nice feature, though I don't know how feasible it would be. It couldn't be Catholic, of course, as I don't think you can shove another faction into the Papal lists mid game. But perhaps Orthodox, or, if one can create a new religion in M2TW, a new branch, such as Nestorianism.
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Glacier_Girl
Legionary
posted 27 May 2009 10:55 EDT (US)     1 / 6       
This would be feasible, and probably possible. I'll look into it for now. After all, el_bandito still hasn't given me the files yet for Serbia or responded to emails. But no rush.

If it's possible and I can do it, then you'll notice a new feature when playing as the Mongols in Mongolphobia V4.

Edit 1: I'm going to try and unpack my Kingdoms files and poke around the Teutonic campaign and see if anything comes up.

Edit 2: Ahh, got it. My teutonic campaign is unpacking now. Gonna take forever...oh well. Pain in the ass to make it unpack the mod, since the Gold edition doesn't have a specific unpacker for the Kingdoms mods.

Edit 3: Finished the unpack, looks like I poked around in the right file. Under campaign_script.txt it shows you this. The '0' is just to separate the 2 entries, not in the file itself.
;setup LITHUANIA CONVERSION counters

add_events
eventcounterlithuania_conversion_accepted
eventcounterlithuania_conversion_declined
eventcounter lithuania_conversion_timer
date0
end_add_events

generate_random_counterlithuania_conversion_timer 0 25
set_event_counter lithuania_conversion_accepted 0
set_event_counter lithuania_conversion_declined 0

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000

;------------------- LITHUANIA CONVERSION TO CATHOLICISM -------------------;

;increment the timer for conversion offer
monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType lithuania

inc_event_counter lithuania_conversion_timer 1

if I_EventCounter lithuania_conversion_accepted = 1
terminate_monitor
end_if

end_monitor

;offer the conversion to Lithuania if the correct conditions are met

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType lithuania

if I_NumberOfSettlements lithuania < 5
and I_EventCounter lithuania_conversion_timer >= 37
and I_EventCounter lithuania_conversion_accepted = 0

;offer conversion to christianity
historic_event lithuania_conversion true factions { lithuania, }

;if AI random chance to accept
if I_IsFactionAIControlled lithuania

generate_random_counterrandom_accept 0 2
if I_EventCounter random_accept < 2
set_event_counter lithuania_conversion_accepted 1
end_if

end_if

terminate_monitor

end_if

if I_EventCounter lithuania_conversion_timer >= 65
and I_EventCounter lithuania_conversion_accepted = 0

;offer conversion to christianity
historic_event lithuania_conversion true factions { lithuania, }

;if AI random chance to accept
if I_IsFactionAIControlled lithuania

generate_random_counterrandom_accept 0 2
if I_EventCounter random_accept 2
set_event_counter lithuania_conversion_accepted 1
end_if

end_if

terminate_monitor

end_if

end_monitor

monitor_conditions I_EventCounter lithuania_conversion_accepted = 1

;Three easy steps for conversion

;1 - Convert the people
set_religion lithuania catholic
change_population_religion lithuania catholic 75 pagan

;2 - Destroy the pagan buildings
destroy_buildings lithuania temple_dievas true
destroy_buildings lithuania temple_dievas_castle true
destroy_buildings lithuania temple_perkunas true
destroy_buildings lithuania temple_perkunas_castle true
destroy_buildings lithuania temple_giltine true
destroy_buildings lithuania temple_giltine_castle true

;3 - Disband the pagan units
retire_characters Lithuania priest
destroy_units Lithuania pagan_unit

;notify all factions that Lithuania has converted and become Catholic
historic_event lithuania_converts event/Lithuania_converts.bik

set_event_counter pagan_lithuania 0
set_event_counter not_pagan_lithuania 1

; change teutonic order ai label
link_faction_ai teutonic_order teutonic_order_non_pagan
link_faction_ai poland poland_non_pagan
link_faction_ai lithuania lithuania_non_pagan

terminate_monitor

end_monitor
Now, if I can just make sense of it all, I can carry it over to the mod.

Heh, maybe I could write some articles for this stuff.

Think you're a hotshot against the Mongols? Go to the Mongolphobia mod discussions and download the mod, then, you will surely tremble with fear in the face of the Mongols. If you have suggestions/questions, feel free to make a thread. You can download Mongolphobia here. Good luck.

“Life lives, life dies. Life laughs, life cries. Life gives up and life tries. But life looks different through everyone's eyes.” -Unknown

Read my AAR/Story "The Battle of the Bridge" here!

[This message has been edited by Glacier_Girl (edited 05-27-2009 @ 11:45 AM).]

Hoppylyte
Legionary
posted 27 May 2009 20:35 EDT (US)     2 / 6       
In the event that they can convert to Christianity, will there be any gameplay changes to the Mongols? Or will it be more of an aesthetic thing?
Glacier_Girl
Legionary
posted 27 May 2009 20:57 EDT (US)     3 / 6       
What do you want?

Think you're a hotshot against the Mongols? Go to the Mongolphobia mod discussions and download the mod, then, you will surely tremble with fear in the face of the Mongols. If you have suggestions/questions, feel free to make a thread. You can download Mongolphobia here. Good luck.

“Life lives, life dies. Life laughs, life cries. Life gives up and life tries. But life looks different through everyone's eyes.” -Unknown

Read my AAR/Story "The Battle of the Bridge" here!
Andalus
Legionary
posted 28 May 2009 06:53 EDT (US)     4 / 6       
Hm, would they still have the ability to join a Jihad? Is that ability tied to faction or religion?

I think I have some vague understanding of how that script is working. The creator's comments are very useful.

The bulk of the latter text is simply what happens once the conversion has been accepted, and seems quite simple. The triggers themselves seem more complex, but a bit of experimenting should figure them out. Try copying the text over to Mongolphobia, changing the faction and buildings, and see what happens when you run it.
Glacier_Girl
Legionary
posted 28 May 2009 08:04 EDT (US)     5 / 6       
Today's my last exam day, but also my hardest, wish me luck.

Think you're a hotshot against the Mongols? Go to the Mongolphobia mod discussions and download the mod, then, you will surely tremble with fear in the face of the Mongols. If you have suggestions/questions, feel free to make a thread. You can download Mongolphobia here. Good luck.

“Life lives, life dies. Life laughs, life cries. Life gives up and life tries. But life looks different through everyone's eyes.” -Unknown

Read my AAR/Story "The Battle of the Bridge" here!
Glacier_Girl
Legionary
posted 29 May 2009 10:44 EDT (US)     6 / 6       
Hopefully, if I can get the Mongols to:

-be able to change religions

-create some sort of religion that allows for a crusading-type event

Would that be all? If I can manage it, I will try.

Think you're a hotshot against the Mongols? Go to the Mongolphobia mod discussions and download the mod, then, you will surely tremble with fear in the face of the Mongols. If you have suggestions/questions, feel free to make a thread. You can download Mongolphobia here. Good luck.

“Life lives, life dies. Life laughs, life cries. Life gives up and life tries. But life looks different through everyone's eyes.” -Unknown

Read my AAR/Story "The Battle of the Bridge" here!
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