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Topic Subject: Wall fighting as seleucia???

Themistocles472
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 20:57 EDT (US)

How do you win a wall fight against a competent (sp? I can't spell for ****) opponent? I see no good wall units save for the legionaires. Their problem is that they are inferior to roman cohorts anywhere near their level and you need max barracks upgrade to produce them. Their other infantry units, all phalanxes, aren't very effective at all on walls. What do you do? I can't use my awsome cav (cataphracts and companions) without winning on the walls to get into the city. I hate lugging onagers around, even if tghat is an option.......suggestions?

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beekay
Legionary
(id: black_knight_101)

posted 04 February 2005 21:00 EDT (US) 1 / 16

Well, you can use Silver Shield Legions (i think that's what they are called). They are sword units.

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Themistocles472
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 21:07 EDT (US) 2 / 16

Edit: re-read my fisrt post.

[This message has been edited by Themistocles472 (edited 02-04-2005 @ 09:08 PM).]

dad_savage
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 21:26 EDT (US) 3 / 16

Use sap points.

uncertaindrummer
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 21:31 EDT (US) 4 / 16

^What he said.

"Your wisdom is surpassed only by your ignorance"

Themistocles472
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 21:39 EDT (US) 5 / 16

ahhhh, I have finished two imperial campaigns, and two half campaigns, but I have yet to even attempt sapping. Thanks I totally and completely forgot about that option.

ArcherPro
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 22:40 EDT (US) 6 / 16

Sap points are inherently dangerous though, so you'll want to purposely use a low-end unit for sapping.

Makaan
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 22:44 EDT (US) 7 / 16

peasents are great suicide units and men increases for siege equipment

Themistocles472
Legionary

posted 04 February 2005 23:58 EDT (US) 8 / 16

Now the only thing I'll have to worry about is their possible (indeed probable) missile superiority. That's better than dealing with the lack of a good'available infantry unit for the walls though. I need to find some more cretens.......

Hikari
Legionary
(id: echowinds)

posted 05 February 2005 03:30 EDT (US) 9 / 16

A big problem of sapping is that you will get pelted really badly by towers as you enter the city.

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Splinter Cell
Legionary

posted 05 February 2005 05:22 EDT (US) 10 / 16

Whats the danger of sap points? I use them quite often and nothing went wrong...

Mechstra
Banned

posted 05 February 2005 05:28 EDT (US) 11 / 16

The enemy can destroy your sap points, killing everyone inside, and while your men line up outside to enter the tunnel, arrow fire can thin their ranks majorly.

Tardy V1002
Legionary

posted 05 February 2005 06:39 EDT (US) 12 / 16

So let crappy units, like mercenary peltasts or libyan mercenaries to do the sap. I know they're supposed to be more dangerous, but in the game it simply means the enemy has to scramble all its infantry off the walls, giving you ample time to completely deploy within the city. Either way defending towers will be shooting at you the whole time, it just means you bypass those costly wall battles.

Rookierookie
Banned

posted 05 February 2005 08:27 EDT (US) 13 / 16

Illyrians, crappy?

Calum
Legionary

posted 05 February 2005 09:02 EDT (US) 14 / 16

I use 2 seige towers and 2 ladders to take walled units out. eg.

=======================/-\==================================
=======================\-/==================================
Ladder..........tower.................................tower..........................ladder
.....................................................^..........................................
.................................................Ram..................................

I also use archers on the ladders (you have to put them far enough along so they aren't getting attacked) Them hoplites through the gate while my 2 seige towers put my best non spear troops onto the wall next to the gate to try and take the gatehouse and open it.

English & Proud

Sospitator
Legionary

posted 05 February 2005 11:13 EDT (US) 15 / 16

mercenary peltast are not Illyrians

Themistocles472
Legionary

posted 05 February 2005 12:10 EDT (US) 16 / 16

I just don't see a win/win situation for attacking stone walls as Seleucia. The sap points and simply taking tower fire is the best bet ATM though....assuming it's only an ordinary stone wall anyway.......

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