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Mechstra
Banned
posted 22 August 2007 06:13 EDT (US)         
Empire: Total War is marching slowly towards us!



Relevant links:

The official site
Preview article on land combat at Gamespot
Another land combat preview at IGN
Total War Heaven Youtube channel - featuring some trailers


FAQ

1. Do we have a release date?
The game is currently scheduled to be out in February 2009.

2. How many factions will there be?
There will be 12 playable factions, all playable from the start. Currently confirmed factions are Britain, Prussia, France, Spain, America, Austria, the Dutch Republic and the Ottoman Empire. References to Peter the Great and Charles XII mean that Russia and Sweden are likely candidates as well. A CA developer has said:
We have over 50 factions in the game, and we can't create all of them in the full detail they deserve. Therefore we limit the number of playable factions, but we can't say which ones are playable just yet, simply because we haven't made a final decision. Rest assured though that all major factions (even the non-playable ones) will be represented in high detail.
3. Do we know system requirements? Will the game require Vista?
There are no released system requirements yet, but the game will run with DirectX 9.0, so Vista will not be a minimum requirement for the game. DX10 support is likely but not needed.

4. What period will the game cover?
Empire: Total War will cover the 18th century and the early 19th century.

5. What will the campaign map be?
The latest information suggests that it will include Europe, North and South America, North Africa, Central Asia, India, and Indonesia.

[This message has been edited by Kor (edited 08-27-2008 @ 05:52 AM).]

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Guy Fawkes
Legionary
posted 20 October 2008 13:05 EDT (US)     201 / 254       
Well, there are parts of British cities where not many people speak English. And I'd say that Britain probably has more of an illegal immigrant problem than the US, due to the fact that we're a smaller nation so overcrowding is worse.

Back on topic, I wonder if we'll be able to make pikemen. After all, if Empire starts around 1700, then pikes would still just have been used. It would be fun to charge my pikemen into battle, and watch them all get shot!

"[President Warren G. Harding's speeches] leave the impression of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea; sometimes, these meandering words actually capture a straggling thought, and bear it triumphantly, a prisoner in their midst, until it dies of servitude and over-work." -- William McAdoo
"He cannot be great, who has ceased to be virtuous." -- Dr. Johnson
Gallowglass
Legionary
posted 20 October 2008 13:32 EDT (US)     202 / 254       

Ah, the first and last parts of that post remind me so much of me. Why are me, you, and Andalus so similar? It's scary.
because most people in the cities dont even speak the US language
You mean English?

Back on topic: why would you want to recruit pikemen? Bayonets will sort out any cavalry problems. Pikemen would be useful to defend against infantry charges, as well, though. Not much good on ships.

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zlack
Legionary
posted 20 October 2008 14:58 EDT (US)     203 / 254       
You mean English?
Except it isn't English because they've changed it so much, they speak American, we speak English.

This is not a signature.

[This message has been edited by zlack (edited 10-20-2008 @ 02:59 PM).]

Gallowglass
Legionary
posted 20 October 2008 15:38 EDT (US)     204 / 254       

I was about to say 'Well, you do,' but then I realised I speak it too

I heard somewhere ETW was further delayed. Is it?

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SpartanOfShadowz
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posted 20 October 2008 16:49 EDT (US)     205 / 254       
i meant english

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EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus
posted 21 October 2008 13:25 EDT (US)     206 / 254       
Talk of illigal immigrants and the like isn't welcome in this forum- go the the RLT if you wish to discuss it.
Instead, make glorious the ETW
why would you want to recruit pikemen?
Because bayonets weren't invented?

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You
Kor
Busschof Happertesch
(id: Derfel Cadarn)
posted 21 October 2008 13:30 EDT (US)     207 / 254       
Because bayonets weren't invented?
Adaptation of some kind of bayonet throughout European armies: 1660.

Fail.

(Although I expect some less technologically heavy countries may not yet have the bayonet at the start; it was pioneered by French armies and was adapted slowly after that.)

Kor | The Age of Chivalry is upon us!
Wellent ich gugk, so hindert mich / köstlicher ziere sinder,
Der ich e pflag, da für ich sich / Neur kelber, gaiss, böck, rinder,
Und knospot leut, swarz, hässeleich, / Vast rüssig gen dem winder;
Die geben müt als sackwein vich. / Vor angst slach ich mein kinder
Offt hin hinder.
EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus
posted 21 October 2008 13:54 EDT (US)     208 / 254       
Past medieval isn't my thing.[/excuse]

Because bayonets, then, were rubbish?

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You
Guy Fawkes
Legionary
posted 22 October 2008 12:37 EDT (US)     209 / 254       
I'd imagine that a formed-up block of pikemen would defeat a block of fusiliers armed with bayonets in hand-to-hand combat due to the superior reach of their weapons.

"[President Warren G. Harding's speeches] leave the impression of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea; sometimes, these meandering words actually capture a straggling thought, and bear it triumphantly, a prisoner in their midst, until it dies of servitude and over-work." -- William McAdoo
"He cannot be great, who has ceased to be virtuous." -- Dr. Johnson
Kor
Busschof Happertesch
(id: Derfel Cadarn)
posted 22 October 2008 13:25 EDT (US)     210 / 254       
Also, bayonets often were rubbish even into Napoleonic times. Many soldiers preferred to fight in close quarters by using the musket as a club rather than exploiting the bayonet, which had little use apart from facing against cavalry. But pikemen only really had defensive value, whereas musketeers with bayonet had both, so pikes were already dropped by some armies in the late 17th century.

Kor | The Age of Chivalry is upon us!
Wellent ich gugk, so hindert mich / köstlicher ziere sinder,
Der ich e pflag, da für ich sich / Neur kelber, gaiss, böck, rinder,
Und knospot leut, swarz, hässeleich, / Vast rüssig gen dem winder;
Die geben müt als sackwein vich. / Vor angst slach ich mein kinder
Offt hin hinder.
Guy Fawkes
Legionary
posted 22 October 2008 14:45 EDT (US)     211 / 254       
Oh no, the Swiss (and others) showed during the Renaissance that pikes had good offensive value. The real problem with using dense blocks of pikemen was that they were vulnerable to enemy artillery fire.

"[President Warren G. Harding's speeches] leave the impression of an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea; sometimes, these meandering words actually capture a straggling thought, and bear it triumphantly, a prisoner in their midst, until it dies of servitude and over-work." -- William McAdoo
"He cannot be great, who has ceased to be virtuous." -- Dr. Johnson
Andalus
Legionary
posted 23 October 2008 07:57 EDT (US)     212 / 254       
Hence why they were defeated at Marignano by a French army using combined arms, rather than the battle being 'push of pike'. But the Swiss certainly did develop a very effective use of pikemen offensively.
Kor
Busschof Happertesch
(id: Derfel Cadarn)
posted 23 October 2008 09:15 EDT (US)     213 / 254       
The offensive value of the pike in the 15th century had been largely negated in the 17th. Yes, they could still be used offensively, but much less so, and success was far from guaranteed. Victories at Nancy, Murten and Grandson required the enemy to use mostly cavalry armies, but in the 17th century that was no longer the case due to the rise of gunpowder. Pikes now had to face massed handguns and field artillery as opposed to a limited number of skirmishers and archers (as an aside, the Swiss used more halberdiers than pikemen, even in 1477).

But that's something to discuss in the history forum, not here.

Kor | The Age of Chivalry is upon us!
Wellent ich gugk, so hindert mich / köstlicher ziere sinder,
Der ich e pflag, da für ich sich / Neur kelber, gaiss, böck, rinder,
Und knospot leut, swarz, hässeleich, / Vast rüssig gen dem winder;
Die geben müt als sackwein vich. / Vor angst slach ich mein kinder
Offt hin hinder.
Aftermath
HG Alumnus
posted 28 October 2008 19:47 EDT (US)     214 / 254       
One thing I am concerned about is the lack of rebel provinces. In both Rome and Medieval II I enjoyed the early stages of the campaign game the most as I scrambled to snatch up nearby rebel provinces using low tier troops and the battles were often gruelling. However I am not convinced Empire will have so much of this, thanks to the focus on foreign interests. A little bit of a shame IMO.

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Alexander332
Legionary
posted 29 October 2008 19:14 EDT (US)     215 / 254       
Pikemen have been confirmed for ETW by a CA employee. Don't make me link it. You can see the unit card here:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/300/942966_20081027_screen002.jpg
Nort99
Legionary
posted 30 October 2008 22:25 EDT (US)     216 / 254       
if you read the unit card on the campaign trailer it says that it is musketmen basically.
Andalus
Legionary
posted 31 October 2008 06:33 EDT (US)     217 / 254       
Does anyone else think that map looks remarkably like Civ IV?
Roman Warlord
Legionary
posted 31 October 2008 09:59 EDT (US)     218 / 254       
@Aftermath,

The rebel grabbing may be replaced the colonies overseas.
remulu
Legionary
posted 04 November 2008 10:18 EDT (US)     219 / 254       
"One thing I am concerned about is the lack of rebel provinces. In both Rome and Medieval II I enjoyed the early stages of the campaign game the most as I scrambled to snatch up nearby rebel provinces using low tier troops and the battles were often gruelling. However I am not convinced Empire will have so much of this, thanks to the focus on foreign interests. A little bit of a shame IMO."

They are making lots of little nations so everything doesnt have to be rebel,more indepth.
Waffentraeger
Legionary
(id: Daelon)
posted 07 November 2008 01:28 EDT (US)     220 / 254       
Andalas,

The map will probably be much larger, probably the whole world for Empire. I think the lead dev said it in a video of some sort.
jomas
Legionary
posted 12 November 2008 18:18 EDT (US)     221 / 254       
about bayonet's, they'll make an impact in the game

sega already stated that there will be an upgrade from "plug bayonet" to "socket bayonet" so that pretty much confirms it
and as far as history goes, the bayonet was used in the 16th century when a group of settlers ran out of gunpowder so they jammed the handle of there hunting knives in the arquebus

so putting bayonets in the game would be historically acurate
Waffentraeger
Legionary
(id: Daelon)
posted 12 November 2008 20:31 EDT (US)     222 / 254       
Most definitely they will, I can't think of one scenario in which a grenadier at some point will use his in a battle.
Hey now wouldn't it be something if you can spend (what ever currency they use) to train your troops so they become more efficient at using bayonets? And than actually notice a visible difference in combat, such as proper stabbing/blocking etc. AHHHHH the realism..

[This message has been edited by Daelon (edited 11-12-2008 @ 08:34 PM).]

Ischenous
Legionary
posted 13 November 2008 12:48 EDT (US)     223 / 254       
The map will probably be much larger, probably the whole world for Empire
I don't think I have seen a picture of South America or Australia. I don't think they will be in either.

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Legion Of Hell
Centurion
posted 13 November 2008 13:03 EDT (US)     224 / 254       
A shame that they might not be Aussies. Damn I was hoping to exact revenge on them after the Ashes series.

But hey at least I can smash the Thirteen Colonies without having to take a forced trip to Guantanamo Bay.

But I look forward to naval combat. At last I can finally say; "Enemy vessel on our port side. Open gun ports. FIRE!"

Ahhhh the joys of watching Hornblower.

General Rawlinson- This is most unsatisfactory. Where are the Sherwood Foresters? Where are the East Lancashires on the right?

Brigadier-General Oxley- They are lying out in No Man's Land, sir. And most of them will never stand again.

Two high ranking British generals discussing the fortunes of two regiments after the disastrous attack at Aubers Ridge on the 9th May 1915.
jomas
Legionary
posted 14 November 2008 22:46 EDT (US)     225 / 254       
wasnt there a pic of indonesia on the world map?
thats pretty close too ausie
so if you want to be something similar LOH, just play whatever faction that controles those ilsands
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