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Topic Subject: Faction Preview: Numidia
posted 21 May 2009 08:16 EDT (US)   
Numidia



The numidians were originally divided into two berber kingdoms, the Massylii and the Masaesily. They were a country divided, each king always fighting for proeminence.
During the second punic war, however, Masinissa, the king of the Massylii, allied himself with Rome, while Syphax of the Masaesyli, chose the Carthaginian side. When the war was over and Carthage, along with its allies, was defeated, the Masinissa was able to unite Numidia in one single kingdom, profiting from both the lands of the defetead Masaesyli king and lands that were before in carthaginian hands.

Having in their hands some of the most fertile lands in the world, along with seasoned warriors to maintain their lands free of invaders, the numidians thrived as allies of Rome rulling almost all of the western north Africa.

When King Jugurta rose to the throne of Numidia, his throne was disputed by one of his half-brothers and civil war started once again. The killing of some roman business man who were aiding his rival brought Rome to declare war on Jugurta.
In the first part of the war the numidians gained the upper hand thanks to the inactivity of the roman commander, but when Caius Marius assumed control, defeat after defeat followed. Although defeated, the urge of returning to Rome to defend its borders from a germanic threat, allowed Jugurta to stay in the throne, though with a much smaller kingdom. Its bigger part was divided between the new Roman province of Africa and the Mauritanian King who allied with Rome.

Now the numidians are in a fragile position, surrounded with unfriendly neighbours. With Rome distracted with his own backyard perhaps it is the moment to strike on those who betrayed them, taking back the lands that belonged to the King of Numidia for generations. And then, when Numidia is again a rich kingdom, maybe they can try to face the might of the roman legions once again.


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Numidia Unit Roster
Barracks
Level 1 - Tribal Infantry


Level 2 -

Level 3 - Numidian Heavy Infantry


Level 4 - African Legionaries



Stables
Level 1 - Numidian Cavalry


Level 2 - Camel Riders


Level 3 - Elephants


Level 4 - Numidian Noble Cavalry (thanks to SubRosa for the permission to use these from ATW!)


Poeni Nobles


War Elephants


Archery Range
Level 1 - Archers


Level 2 - Gaetulian Skirmishers


Level 3 -

Level 4 - Onagers




I'm already using Pinarius' horses in some units as you can see. I wont use them in all of the units, though.

I thought of including the Poeni Nobles as an elite infantry unit. It would be something like this:


Oh, the faction symbol is from SubRosa's ATW too. Another thank you for her!

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[This message has been edited by neo_deus (edited 11-13-2009 @ 11:22 PM).]

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posted 21 May 2009 15:51 EDT (US)     1 / 13  
Good work.

One thing that strikes me as odd is the Archers and Camel Riders wearing Greek farmhats. It seems out of place and a bit iffy.
posted 21 May 2009 16:45 EDT (US)     2 / 13  
Well, I wanted them to have a hat, and since there was no other hats available and I'm not familiar with any numidian hats type... I gave them the greek ones. The texture for it is a bit different, though. It's darker, kinda like if it's made of leather. The greek ones seem made of straw or something.

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posted 21 May 2009 23:52 EDT (US)     3 / 13  
Neo_Deus, a quick look at Wikipedia ( I heart firefox) says that the Numidian king Jugurta was in fact Jugurtha, and he was executed after Marius's triumph.

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posted 22 May 2009 01:50 EDT (US)     4 / 13  
Love the idea of the poeni infantry although maybe they could have the swords instead of the spear??? Just seems apart from the Numidian legionaries they don't have much units capable of hand to hand combat.

[This message has been edited by Ancient Zoro (edited 05-22-2009 @ 01:51 AM).]

posted 22 May 2009 08:15 EDT (US)     5 / 13  
It's true, Canniba. He was captured by Sulla and then executed in Rome. I took the liberty to distort history a bit there, to give the Numidians a place. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to include them, since after the Jugurthian wars, Numidia pretty much ceased existing as an independent nation.

It's true, Zoro, they don't. The numidians were not famous by their infantry so I don't want to give them many options there. They will be able to compensate their defiiciency with mercenaries, as other factions do with poor cavalry choices or range troops. The mercenaries available through the map will be many and capable.

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posted 23 May 2009 00:42 EDT (US)     6 / 13  
Numidia was annexed in 46 BC, after your mod begins. So you can keep it without keeping Jugurtha alive.

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posted 24 May 2009 13:06 EDT (US)     7 / 13  
The ancient territory of Numidia was absorbed in 43BC, but the kingdom of Numidia was divided was divided between the romans and the Mauritanian kingdom after the Jugurthian wars.

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posted 24 May 2009 15:38 EDT (US)     8 / 13  
You said 'was divided' twice. And wouldn't it be more fun if Numidia was midget at the start?

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posted 25 May 2009 08:40 EDT (US)     9 / 13  
What do you mean by midget? Numidia starting as a small faction?

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posted 25 May 2009 23:55 EDT (US)     10 / 13  
Yes I did mean that.

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posted 26 May 2009 18:22 EDT (US)     11 / 13  
Numidia will start as a small faction, yes. Two territories, three at most.

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posted 19 June 2009 05:40 EDT (US)     12 / 13  
looks great i always liked numidia so i hope ill like em in tthis mod too i reckon i will...


anyways looks awesome cant wait until the games released.

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posted 22 June 2009 09:59 EDT (US)     13 / 13  
ty, Holey Mad

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