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Punic Hebil
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posted 17 May 2013 00:12 EDT (US)

The Man with the Laughs

Gooooooooood-byyyyyyye Vietnaaaaam! That's right, I'm history... I'm outta here. I got the lucky ticket home, baby. Rollin, rollin, rollin'... keep them wagons rollin', rawhide! Yeah, that's right... the final Adrian Cronauer broadcast... and this one is brought to you by our friends at the Pentagon. Remember the people who brought you Korea? That's right, the U.S. Army. If it's being done correctly, here or abroad, it's probably not being done by the Army.

In honor of Robin Williams, I've decided to forsake the rules and simple post a lot of what made him special to us: his humor and ability to make us laugh!!

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Jafar: You stay out of this!
Genie: [Weakly] Jafar, Jafar, he's our man; if he can't do it, great!

When Christopher Reeve was in the hospital after his accident, Robin came to visit him. Reeve said this about that surprise visit:

Then, at an especially bleak moment, the door flew open and in hurried a squat fellow with a blue scrub hat and a yellow surgical gown and glasses, speaking in a Russian accent. He announced that he was my proctologist, and that he had to examine me immediately...it was Robin Williams...for the first time since the accident, I laughed. My old friend had helped me know that somehow I was going to be okay.

When Stephan Spielberg was filming "Schindler's List", Robin would call him to cheer him up. I think I only called him once, maybe twice. I called him when I was representing People for the Valdheimers Association. A society devoted to helping raise money to help older Germans who had forgotten everything before 1945. I remember him laughing and going 'thank you.'"

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[This message has been edited by Terikel Grayhair (edited 12-13-2014 @ 02:35 PM).]

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BastWorshiper
Sensei

posted 19 December 2013 10:29 EDT (US) 1101 / 2504

Since I spent a seemingly unnecessary amount of time updating my account information for this site this morning, I feel compelled to make some kind of post to show the struggle was not in vain. So...

I've been thinking, recently, about the Rebels' fighter craft from the original "Star Wars" movie. Where did they come from? While they weren't supposed be the best fighters produced, I think, they are very obviously military hardware. It's not like an X-wing is some piece of farm equipment with guns tied to it, and they didn't manufacture them on their own; so how were the Rebels able to procure a squadron of military fighters?

Using our world as an analogous system, they would just buy them from another government; but the Empire would have us believe they had complete control. Propaganda, I'm sure; but if regional governors had direct control of their star systems, I doubt they would sell military equipment to the Rebels. The governors' power derives from the Galactic Empire, and they would likely prefer to maintain the status quo. Although, people aren't often entirely logical and perhaps, at least in some outlying systems, short-term profit or long-term ethical considerations may have outweighed the desire to gather and protect current authority. (The Empire should probably have screened those guys better.)

However, I think a more likely scenario is that the high-level military equipment would have been purchased from some large criminal organization. It's ironic, since the Hutts are portrayed throughout the series as "bad guys." But they are the only organization, operating outside the law, that seems to have a big enough network and be influential enough to be able to secure and sell the quality and quantity of military equipment used by the Rebels.

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EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 19 December 2013 14:26 EDT (US) 1102 / 2504

I think the explination is that they stole the prototypes and had enough planetary systems among their number to produce them in relatively effective numbers. The empire by this point has already gone for cheap and cheerful TIE fighters and so weren't regarding the projects as anything other than blue sky research.

Or something.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

Jax
HG Monument
(id: Jax Omen)

posted 19 December 2013 15:15 EDT (US) 1103 / 2504

Yeah, the Rebels stole the designs and originals, then built the rest themselves

Now would be an apt time to mention that a lot of the Star Wars canon outside of (and inside of) the films is really terrible.

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EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 19 December 2013 17:49 EDT (US) 1104 / 2504

Or indeed fail to make much sense.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

Jax
HG Monument
(id: Jax Omen)

posted 20 December 2013 03:23 EDT (US) 1105 / 2504

Case in point...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galaxy_Gun

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EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 20 December 2013 04:55 EDT (US) 1106 / 2504

The Galaxy Gun, or Galaxy Weapon, was a superweapon built by the Galactic Empire in 10 ABY. It was commissioned by the "reborn" Emperor Palpatine and designed by Umak Leth.

Death Star rip off - Check

Random person to be given ridiculous amount of backstory - Check

The Big Bad of 6 films cheating death via clones - double check.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

Jax
HG Monument
(id: Jax Omen)

posted 20 December 2013 05:03 EDT (US) 1107 / 2504

Also everything about the thing. The premise of firing lightspeed warheads is interesting, but...

1) Why is it a gun? Just strap a hyperdrive to a missile. Surely something that physically accelerates a projectile is even more complex?

2) Why do the projectiles come out of hyperspace at all?

3) WHY IS IT A GUN

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Scenter102
Legionary

posted 20 December 2013 14:10 EDT (US) 1108 / 2504

So I'm convinced that Ohio is currently suffering from a winter of mass destruction, we've had two snowfalls, and are forecasted to get 4 inches of rain tomorrow.

Awesome Eagle
Spear of Mars
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posted 20 December 2013 16:07 EDT (US) 1109 / 2504

I am intrigued by the Expanded Universe of Star Wars. There is literally the possibility for anything to happen or to exist. A few of the Expanded stories i have read have been marvelous at capturing the vibe of the Star Wars Universe and characters. Not all is terrible. (although a fair amount is)

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SwampRat
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posted 20 December 2013 16:16 EDT (US) 1110 / 2504

Jax, is there much detail on how hyperspace works? For example can you collide in it and do weird super boomy warheads work there?

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DominicusUltimus
Legate

posted 20 December 2013 17:09 EDT (US) 1111 / 2504

I was a huge Star Wars fan back in my younger days. Still am, but a bit of my knowledge of the Expanded Universe has been forgotten and replaced by Ancient History and other things.

As for hyperspace, a ship can crash into stars and the mass shadows of planets and other celestial bodies if you don't have proper coordinates or the nav computer screws you over. The Hapes Consortium also has mines that simulate mass shadows to force a ship out of hyperspace or prevent one from entering because the safety protocols in nav computers will stop the target ship's hyperdrive from starting up.

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Jax
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posted 20 December 2013 18:57 EDT (US) 1112 / 2504

Jax, is there much detail on how hyperspace works? For example can you collide in it and do weird super boomy warheads work there?

Like Dom said, stuff must be able to crash in Hyperspace because there are measures in place to prevent it. Even if someone can come up with a reason that means accelerating a lump of metal up to light speed and smashing a planet *isn't* a workable idea, it doesn't explain why the Galaxy Gun is a gun. It's just so... shit.

I am intrigued by the Expanded Universe of Star Wars. There is literally the possibility for anything to happen or to exist. A few of the Expanded stories i have read have been marvelous at capturing the vibe of the Star Wars Universe and characters. Not all is terrible. (although a fair amount is)

Very much this. The universe itself is good, it just that by saying "everything is canon!" a large portion of the material is like fanfic quality. It's an amazing setting to stick adventures in, but it seems like the quality of stuff that makes it to print and so is canon (which should be the highest quality content created for the universe) is of a really low standard. Maybe it's because SW is SO popular that even shitty novels sell well? I dunno.

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General Sajaru
Tribunus Laticlavius

posted 20 December 2013 21:13 EDT (US) 1113 / 2504

So I'm convinced that Ohio is currently suffering from a winter of mass destruction, we've had two snowfalls, and are forecasted to get 4 inches of rain tomorrow.

You seem to be getting my weather a day later (I'm in Chicago) and I can say that we've definitely been having rain today. Although it's supposed to be down to a low of -5 on Monday.

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Ischenous
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posted 22 December 2013 12:00 EDT (US) 1114 / 2504

Just found out Paradox have released a free DLC which has two EU4/CK2 themed christmas songs. Have to say they aren't too bad either.

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EnemyofJupitor
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posted 22 December 2013 12:08 EDT (US) 1115 / 2504

So, my sister just asked who Offa's Dyke was.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

Tryhard
Legate

posted 23 December 2013 18:36 EDT (US) 1116 / 2504

I just spoiled your voting thread.
But that's for your own good.

Ischenous and EoJ, never heard of Wolfpanzee since good ol' times?
I had been watching World War Z, this pro-sion propaganda disguized as a pale but watchable horror movie (just a remake of 28 days later).
Maybe, as he is not from there but not from elsewhere either, he could have given his opinion.

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Terikel Grayhair
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posted 24 December 2013 04:52 EDT (US) 1117 / 2504

You should know better.

Now you must submit a full vote to erase the taint.

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Hannibal the Conqueror
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posted 24 December 2013 15:39 EDT (US) 1118 / 2504

And our midterms are finally over.

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Lord Ahm
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posted 24 December 2013 19:30 EDT (US) 1119 / 2504

I just now discovered there is a new RTW.

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posted 24 December 2013 22:15 EDT (US) 1120 / 2504

It's kinda dumb. Most of the time is spent dealing with the annoying civic issues and you spend all your time building boring buildings instead of cool ones. A few other things were improved but the TW series seems to have gone the way of SimCity for the most part.

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General Sajaru
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posted 25 December 2013 03:24 EDT (US) 1121 / 2504

And our midterms are finally over.

When will you know how you did?

Also, to those who celebrate, Merry Christmas!

Ischenous
Legionary

posted 25 December 2013 04:29 EDT (US) 1122 / 2504

Have they fixed battles yet? Or is it still a case of charging will destroy anything even if it is by slingers on say hoplites and the battle will be over in 2 minutes?

Hannibal the Conqueror
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posted 25 December 2013 05:02 EDT (US) 1123 / 2504

When will you know how you did?

8th of January. I'm expecting pretty good grades, this being crucial to maintaining my 'position' in school.

Also, congratulations on turning red!

"I long for Darkness."
- Cormac McCarthy, The Sunset Limited.

"We are a species that ravages, plunders, kills, destroys, rapes and enslaves in the name of progress."

EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 25 December 2013 05:08 EDT (US) 1124 / 2504

Have they fixed battles yet? Or is it still a case of charging will destroy anything even if it is by slingers on say hoplites and the battle will be over in 2 minutes?

It's a little better. I've had some isolated legions got their arses handed to them by Barbarians that won't stop *twitch*

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

DominicusUltimus
Legate

posted 25 December 2013 23:58 EDT (US) 1125 / 2504

With regards to Rome II, I've pretty much abandoned vanilla and play it modded. My favorite has to be the historical overhaul mod 'Divide et Impera' which, in my opinion, turns Rome II into the game that many people were expecting (longer battles, appropriately weak missile units & naval transports, large number of troops types available for all factions instead of a select few, etc.). I've actually been thinking about writing an article about it once real life calms down a bit.

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