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Punic Hebil
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posted 17 May 2013 00:12 EDT (US)

The Man with the Laughs

Gooooooooood-byyyyyyye Vietnaaaaam! That's right, I'm history... I'm outta here. I got the lucky ticket home, baby. Rollin, rollin, rollin'... keep them wagons rollin', rawhide! Yeah, that's right... the final Adrian Cronauer broadcast... and this one is brought to you by our friends at the Pentagon. Remember the people who brought you Korea? That's right, the U.S. Army. If it's being done correctly, here or abroad, it's probably not being done by the Army.

In honor of Robin Williams, I've decided to forsake the rules and simple post a lot of what made him special to us: his humor and ability to make us laugh!!

Genie: [turns into a cheerleader] Rick 'em, rack 'em, rock 'em, rake! Stick that sword into that snake!
Jafar: You stay out of this!
Genie: [Weakly] Jafar, Jafar, he's our man; if he can't do it, great!

When Christopher Reeve was in the hospital after his accident, Robin came to visit him. Reeve said this about that surprise visit:

Then, at an especially bleak moment, the door flew open and in hurried a squat fellow with a blue scrub hat and a yellow surgical gown and glasses, speaking in a Russian accent. He announced that he was my proctologist, and that he had to examine me immediately...it was Robin Williams...for the first time since the accident, I laughed. My old friend had helped me know that somehow I was going to be okay.

When Stephan Spielberg was filming "Schindler's List", Robin would call him to cheer him up. I think I only called him once, maybe twice. I called him when I was representing People for the Valdheimers Association. A society devoted to helping raise money to help older Germans who had forgotten everything before 1945. I remember him laughing and going 'thank you.'"

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2000: Jetkill Fastmurder
2500:

[This message has been edited by Terikel Grayhair (edited 12-13-2014 @ 02:35 PM).]

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SwampRat
M2TW Ladder Leader

posted 15 October 2013 04:23 EDT (US) 901 / 2504

Which axioms in maths do you dispute? You can do quite a lot without very complicated starting assumptions (e.g. parallel lines not converging, apparently there's an alternative consistent set of rules/results if they do)

Without being utterly certain of how/why the universe works there's probably some room for doubt - presumably if this is a simulation then there could be situations when what we would think of as a solid rule turns out not to be - but, well I'll wait to see what you suggest.

Applied maths gets towards physics so there might well be some stuff those crazy chaps assume, to be fair to you.

EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 15 October 2013 06:48 EDT (US) 902 / 2504

... I'm a chemist. Stuff blows up or makes pretty colours.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

DarthDovah101
Legionary

posted 15 October 2013 12:21 EDT (US) 903 / 2504

Had first day of anatomy, bit weird seeing the insides of actual people.

Edorix
High King of Britain

posted 15 October 2013 14:26 EDT (US) 904 / 2504

Wouldn't it be more fun if you could dissect them while they were still alive? Then you could actually watch all the bits and pieces at work... albeit not for very long.

Earl Scruffles
Legionary
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posted 15 October 2013 15:12 EDT (US) 905 / 2504

Sent off my UCAS form 5 days ago. Already got two offers. Feels good man

But I won't go to England due to the prescence of scruffy in shottingham. - Scenter102
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Hannibal the Conqueror
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posted 15 October 2013 17:25 EDT (US) 906 / 2504

Wouldn't it be more fun if you could dissect them while they were still alive? Then you could actually watch all the bits and pieces at work... albeit not for very long.

I think one Jeffrey Dahmer was enough

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DarthDovah101
Legionary

posted 15 October 2013 17:31 EDT (US) 907 / 2504

Well done! What universities?

Didn't get mine until nearly April.

Jax
HG Monument
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posted 15 October 2013 17:31 EDT (US) 908 / 2504

Sent off my UCAS form 5 days ago. Already got two offers. Feels good man

Where bro?

house won this

Ischenous
Legionary

posted 15 October 2013 18:01 EDT (US) 909 / 2504

EoJ, are you coming to the Hit and Miss on the 27th? If you are and you're shooting, then I look forwad to pouring abuse on you and your team

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EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 15 October 2013 18:47 EDT (US) 910 / 2504

BUTTS TC, yes

and we haven't picked the team but I want to shoot! The rule about alumni is good for us because our ones are pretty awesome, while I'm hitting a few too

Oxford, Warwick and Nottingham will be the ones to beat, though- Oxford are current national champions, Nottingham have insane archers (though they don't always focus on the BUTTS events too much) but Warwick have some incredible alumni to back their already good team.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

Ischenous
Legionary

posted 16 October 2013 02:13 EDT (US) 911 / 2504

We are set for some good official and unofficial commentary on all the teams. Probably mostly towards Uni of (and their 'Nottingham lean') and our commentators but we also have some questionaires for everyone shooting to fill out so we also have some other random stuff to talk about. I think we also plan to make a banner to hang up as well.

Also we aren't too shabby! If BUCs is anything to go by atleast.

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Earl Scruffles
Legionary
(id: generalscruff)

posted 16 October 2013 05:34 EDT (US) 912 / 2504

AAA from Newcastle and AAB from Southampton, with a certain place for an Erasmus Year in Europe (France, Norway, Poland or Hungary) with Southampton

EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 16 October 2013 07:59 EDT (US) 913 / 2504

Heh, one of our lot wants to do commentary too

And no, you're not! Last time you beat us handily, I just think those three are the front runners.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

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Scenter102
Legionary

posted 16 October 2013 20:28 EDT (US) 914 / 2504

Which axioms in maths do you dispute?

1+1=2

Prove it

Though there is a proof that 2+2=4 which assumes that 1+1=2 or something.

Actually quite an interesting debate.

[This message has been edited by Scenter102 (edited 10-16-2013 @ 08:35 PM).]

Ischenous
Legionary

posted 16 October 2013 20:54 EDT (US) 915 / 2504

As long as we beat Uni off I'll be happy

I don't seem to recall much of Oxford but I know Warwick has a couple of gems so to speak.

Is that the guy who supposedly (from what I remember being told) started BUTTs? If so he's doing the official commentary while our social secs will abuse everyone. I should be helping, so I might try and abuse our commentators while I'm a it.

Awesome Eagle
Spear of Mars
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posted 16 October 2013 22:36 EDT (US) 916 / 2504

1+1=2

Prove it

I have no idea what an Axiom is, but to prove 1+1=2 cant you just be physical?

As in i have 1 stick, when i give myself another stick i now have 2 sticks?

But no matter, such things are way out of my realm

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EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 17 October 2013 02:25 EDT (US) 917 / 2504

Hah, no, I don't think so- he's ancient but he's not that old! BUTTS has been going for at least 50 years now

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

Edorix
High King of Britain

posted 17 October 2013 03:26 EDT (US) 918 / 2504

I have no idea what an Axiom is, but to prove 1+1=2 cant you just be physical?

As in i have 1 stick, when i give myself another stick i now have 2 sticks?

The point being that is how we define what "1" and "2" are... 2 is defined as 2x1, otherwise written as 1+1, so it couldn't possibly be anything else... but I do find discussions of this sort interesting, because you can always feel something tugging at the back of your mind saying "yes, but how do you prove it objectively..."

Ischenous
Legionary

posted 17 October 2013 04:00 EDT (US) 919 / 2504

Hmm, that's new to me. I was just told someone (who was described as the father of BUTTs or something) who did a load of stuff for it was also commentating. I'm not on the commitee, so I only get half stories on everything

Awesome Eagle
Spear of Mars
(id: awesomated88)

posted 17 October 2013 04:01 EDT (US) 920 / 2504

Hmm, interesting.

Bloody objectivity. If my history extension class has taught me anything, it is that there is no such thing as complete objectivity..:/

Bad time to live in Aussie right now. We have bush fires springing up all over the place, and I doubt we have enough crews to handle them all. I have a few in my area which are terrible. At one place down the coast, the fireies are trapped in a town and retreating to the beach! Sad time for a lot of people right now...

EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 17 October 2013 05:34 EDT (US) 921 / 2504

It's probably Steve, then- he organised BUTTS for the past few years. In which case Brum is in for a lot of abuse, seeing as he's our alumni...

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

SwampRat
M2TW Ladder Leader

posted 17 October 2013 15:12 EDT (US) 922 / 2504

Quoted from Eddie Baby:
The point being that is how we define what "1" and "2" are.

There goes my answer

I was going to write some rubbish but deleted it all as tripe. There's an interesting list of axioms on wiki
and some quite interesting descriptions although I'd generally recommend maths.wolfram as a better place to look for maths things.

I'd still argue that maths is quite free from uncertainty because it generally works off of a known set of axioms whereas to apply things with physics or the real world is much harder (e.g. how many dimensions are there?)

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Scenter102
Legionary

posted 17 October 2013 16:09 EDT (US) 923 / 2504

I love how there are two totally different conversations going on.

Yeah, even those axioms assume that you don't imagine that the world exists outside of me(or you).

Gotta love doubt.

General Sajaru
Tribunus Laticlavius

posted 18 October 2013 01:11 EDT (US) 924 / 2504

As long as we beat Uni off I'll be happy

Is this a Briticism or just an accidental extra word...? (Sorry, I couldn't help but notice since no one else seemed to).

I'd still argue that maths is quite free from uncertainty because it generally works off of a known set of axioms whereas to apply things with physics or the real world is much harder (e.g. how many dimensions are there?)

I think it's fair to say that while math may not be utterly objective (or even based upon constant axioms), it's still freer from uncertainty than the social sciences.

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[This message has been edited by General Sajaru (edited 10-18-2013 @ 01:13 AM).]

EnemyofJupitor
HG Alumnus Superbus

posted 18 October 2013 02:33 EDT (US) 925 / 2504

He meant to say "Uni of", which is a shorthand version of referring to the uni of Nottingham if you are in Nottingham Trent.

It's the same if you go to other cities with more than one university in them- eg Oxford brookes vs uni of.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You

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